Of course it does, every day - some of you are sounding like this a new thing. These are the dangers of policework. Chasing shooting or stabbing suspects in the South Bronx on fire escapes, etc, in plainclothes - or should we just have said, wow, he made it to someone's backyard or a fire escape - he's home free, shouldn't chase him there?
I knew you knew what the question was...unlike @Cowboy you didn't give a answer in a way to be construed as friendly.
PR? There doesn't appear to be too many people as anti-cop and unwilling to listen to a professional point of view as you. I don't know what you do for a living, but I sure wouldn't tell you how to do it.
Cause if they did, they would have realised that the wanted individual was/has not been there. But thats not really the issue. The issue is coming in all incognito
Well property records would lead you to the owner who could tell you the name of their tenant.....
Therein lies the rub....It most certainly is NOT common here. I think that might be the center of your opinion. I live in a county that is larger than the State of RI. Cops of towns, cities and the County Police and Sherriff's Dept DO NOT do this here on a regular basis. Do you even Think that might make a difference to us? Again, your thoughts are from your life's experiences...they do not apply Here. This not only doesn't happen every shift, I'd venture a bet it doesn't happen once a WEEK.
And you learned that from your experience from . . . . .
So, you feel that with each anonymous and unverified telephone tip, police should spend countless man hours, helicopter fuel, K9's, etc. sitting on houses - I hear you, but it's not realistic.
If you're keeping up, I acknowledged their garb to be horrible for their mission. But you didn't answer the question. Someone kills your loved one and a tip says he's in a house - what should the police do? Wait outside? For how long? How long will that last without the surveillance being "made" - 30 seconds? So the guy doesn't come out. How long do the police wait? "Sorry Mr. NKD, we waited 12 hours and your family member's murderer never came out - so we went home."
Legally, "search" has different meanings in different circumstances. One form of search is Constitutionally protected when it involves a person or enclosed spaces they control. Another form of search is not Constitutionally protected when it involves observing what is publicly visible.Well, we can't really skirt the legal issues if we call it a search now, can we?
I'm glad we cleared up this little pedantic point about how they were just looking for, but legally definitely not searching for a suspect.
@Dan0311 and I would both appreciate it if you would quote the right person when you reply to a post.
This^^^^a thoughtful , reasoned, Gentlemanly Answer. At my stage of life, I have only My life's experiences to draw from. A retired N.Y. Police Officer and I will never understand each other. This conversation simply reinforces my opinion. Best to just keep our distance.
Really, helicopters hoovering over house for surveillance? K9s out front for surveillance….how did they ever do it back in the day🙄
I am truly trying to understand. There are many intelligent people on this forum and I'm certainly willing to hear things out and learn. I was known to have a higher threshold of probable cause and it's got me in trouble with my boss' who have a heavy pro-arrest policy. My main question was, "If the Marshal's did it wrong, what's the 'correct' way?" If waiting down the block and conducting surveillance is the only answer, than that's it. Extremely unrealistic and a waste of time in many cases, but it is what it is.
Back in MY day I started with a .38 and 18 total rounds. My tiny precinct covered 1.9 sq, miles and we had 92 homicides my first year.
In North Carolina, trespassing is as follows:
Wandering around on your deck is probably not trespassing if your deck does not have a gate and roof or if the deck (or the property it is on) is not posted.
They're idiots but I don't like how people are getting mad about police being idiots?
Cool, I'll have my rifle out when I come to tell you about my Tupperware at your back door
Not saying it's good or bad, but unless your property is posted, police can roam around on your property like anyone else.
Several officers were killed while serving a warrant because the house had multiple cameras and he used an AR.
Ah. See there's a doughnut joke to be made there for sure. Next what the murderer is young and black bc fat white guys don't murder. They just the lazy cop that instead of stay in shape for their job which can include the chasing of suspect ah F the PT today we got the helicopter
