CHP reciprocity with Nevada and Minnesota

rdinatal said:
I'd trust that over a call to the Sheriff/State Police.
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I would not trust either. First off most officers do not know the laws. They only know what laws they inforce. You need to call the DOJ training and ask them. Take names, times and date. Would be best to email them and get it back by email so it is in writing. But when all is said and done, the responsibility is on the person who is carrying. Now about the apps, @Timfoilhat knows this guy personally and I can see why he would trust the APP. What I dont understand why anyone who doesnt know a developer of an app would trust them. Can you use it as a source, yes. But to look at an app and trust what it said is foolish. Maybe the developer died last year and the laws change. Maybe the developer made his money and is not updating the APP. See where I am going! But it is on the internet so it must be true! šŸ¤“
 
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Bullseye Baldee said:
Would never trust an app for anything that had to do with laws on carrying handguns.
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While I would not trust it 100% it is useful especially for quick referenc. Also when it comes to travel in other states I will print out that Stateā€™s Laws from their stateā€™s AG, DOJ or such site regarding firearms and conceal carry and have that printed law available to point to any ā€œoverreachingā€ action. Never had to use either for a LEO interaction but that hard copy on hand is way easier to point to than a little screen reference when talking with a LEO.
 
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I sent out a request for updates to the reps that previously said they were looking into it but didn't hear anything back.
Looks like we're going another year without our permits being honored in NV. It's making my wife grumpy out there. She doesn't even like carrying, so for her to be asking about it means something out there is spooking her.
I think we might as well just go ahead and file for non-resident permits from a state that NV does honor. I miss my michigan resident license, it was a good one, but they don't do non-resident.
 
I visit a good friend in Reno, NV quite often.

I decided to apply for an AZ non-resident CCH. Process was quite easy, and I did my own fingerprints. Took about four weeks to receive my AZ permit.
 
iā€™m still waiting on my AZ permit. june 6 will be 75 business days since they got my application.

i have also been in touch with the person who works in the NV CHP office. she is going to contact me when NC comes up again for reciprocity review.
 
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vp9c said:
iā€™m still waiting on my AZ permit. june 6 will be 75 business days since they got my application.
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My issue date was about a week after I mailed my app to AZ (last week of March to first week of April, 2021). Perhaps you should call AZ to see if they've actually received your application?
 
poller said:
My issue date was about a week after I mailed my app to AZ (last week of March to first week of April, 2021). Perhaps you should call AZ to see if they've actually received your application?
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interesting. i called last week and iā€™m in background check...

thanks for info
 
i was just looking at the GRNC reciprocity map and it says Rev. 10/11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! definitely needs an update!
 
TheMikeL said:
i was just looking at the GRNC reciprocity map and it says Rev. 10/11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! definitely needs an update!
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I use an app (I know the developer). Here's just NC CHL reciprocity. Screenshot_20210604-175235_CCW.jpg
 
Here's what the Virginia State Police say on their website.
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So it too exactly 75 business days for my AZ permit to arrive.

seems like some folks have had faster turnaround. seems like itā€™s still beating some North Carolina counties, so it could shave a few weeks or months for NC residents that want to get a permit faster than their county is providing.

reciprocity with Nevada was the reason I did it.
 
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@Prosecutor

any comments/thoughts about this email response from the Nevada Department of Public Safety? It seems like NC is actually more restrictive...

This is in response to me asking why NV no longer recognizes NC CHP...
After reading through the North Carolina statutes for what could disqualify you from carrying a concealed weapon, I've found that they are VERY different from ours here in Nevada. I've included what I found below..

North Carolina Disqualifiers:

The applicant has not been adjudicated guilty of, nor received a prayer for Judgment Continued, or suspended sentence for offenses constituting a misdemeanor under the following specific statutes, nor any other crime of violence:Adjudicated as Mentally Defective or been Involuntarily Committed to a mental institution.


- Assault on handicapped person (N.C.G.S 14-32.1)

- Simple Assault (N.C.G.S 14-33(a)), within three years prior to the date on the application.

- Assault inflicting serious injury or using a deadly weapon. (N.C.G.S 14-33(c)(1))


- Assault on a female (N.C.G.S 14-33(c)(2))


- Assault a child under the age of 12 (N.C.G.S 14-33(c)(3))


- Assault inflicting serious injury or using a deadly weapon on a person in a personal relationship and in the presence of a minor. (N.C.G.S 14-33(d))


- Assault by pointing a gun. (N.C.G.S 14-34)


- Manufacture, sale, purchase or possession of Teflon-coated bullets (N.C.G.S 14-34.3)


- Criminal use of a laser device. (N.C.G.S 14-34.8)


- Criminal use of a laser device. (N.C.G.S 14-34.8)


- Domestic criminal trespass (N.C.G.S 14-134.3)


- Violation of court orders (N.C.G.S 14.226.1), within three years prior to the date on the application.


- Furnishing poison, controlled substance, deadly weapons, cartridge, ammunition or alcoholic beverage to inmates of charitable, mental or penal institutions, or local confinement facilities (N.C.G.S 14.258.1), within three years prior to the date on the application


- Carrying weapons on campus or other educational property (N.C.G.S 14.269.2), within three years prior to the date on the application


- Carrying weapons into assemblies and establishments where alcoholic beverages are sold and or consumed (N.C.G.S 14.269.3), within three years prior to the date on the application


- Carry weapons on state property and courthouses (N.C.G.S 14.269.4), within three years prior to the date on the application


- Possession and or sale of spring-loaded projectile knives (N.C.G.S 14.269.6), within three years prior to the date on the application


- Impersonation of a law enforcement officer or other public officer (N.C.G.S 14.277), within three years prior to the date on the application


- Communicating threats (N.C.G.S 14.277.1), within three years prior to the date on the application


- Carry weapons at parades and other public gatherings (N.C.G.S 14.277.2), within three years prior to the date on the application


- Stalking (N.C.G.S 14.277.3)


- Exploding dynamite cartridges and or bombs (N.C.G.S 14.283) Except for a violation involving fireworks N.C.G.S 14-414) , within three years prior to the date on the application


- Rioting and inciting to riot (N.C.G.S 14.288.2) , within three years prior to the date on the application


- Fighting or conduct creating the threat of imminent fighting or other violence (N.C.G.S 14.288.4(a)(1)) , within three years prior to the date on the application


- Making or using any utterance, gesture, display or abusive language which is intended and plainly likely to provoke violent retaliation, and thereby create a breach of peace (N.C.G.S 14.288.4(a)(2))


- Looting and trespassing during an emergency (N.C.G.S 14.288.6) , within three years prior to the date on the application


- Assault on emergency personnel (N.C.G.S 14.288.9) , within three years prior to the date on the application


- Violations of city State of Emergency Ordinances (N.C.G.S 14.288.12) , within three years prior to the date on the application


- Violations of county State of Emergency Ordinances (N.C.G.S 14.288.13) , within three years prior to the date on the application


- Violations of State of Emergency Ordinances (N.C.G.S 14.288.14) , within three years prior to the date on the application


- Child abuse (N.C.G.S 14.318.2)


- Violations of the standards of carrying a concealed weapon (N.C.G.S 14.415.21(b)) Violations of county State of Emergency Ordinances (N.C.G.S 14.288.13) , within three years prior to the date on the application


- Misrepresentation on certification of qualified retired law enforcement officers (N.C.G.S 14.415.26) Violations of county State of Emergency Ordinances (N.C.G.S 14.288.13) , within three years prior to the date on the application


- Domestic violence protective order violations (N.C.G.S 50B-4.1)


- Has been adjudicated guilty or received a prayer for judgment continued or a suspended sentence for crimes involving an assault or a threat to assault a law enforcement officer, probation or parole officer, person employed by the State or local detention facility, firefighter, emergency medical technician, medical responder, or emergency department personnel.


- Any person convicted of ā€œmisdemeanor crime of domestic violenceā€ as defined in federal law at 18 U.S.C 922(g)(8)


- The person is not free on bond or personal recognizance pending trial, appeal, or sentencing for a crime which would disqualify him/her from obtaining CCH.


- The applicant has not been convicted of an impaired driving offense under any of the following General Statutes with the three years prior to the date on which the application is submitted: (N.C.G.S 20-138.1): Impaired driving (N.C.G.S 20-138.2): Impaired driving in commercial vehicle (N.C.G.S 20-138.3): Driving by person less than 21 years old after consuming alcohol or drugs




Nevada Disqualifiers:

Ā· You are a fugitive from justice.

Ā· Convictions:

Ā· Felony convictions.

Ā· Convicted of a crime involving the use/threat of force, including misdemeanors, within 3 years.

Ā· Convicted of a crime involving Domestic Violence or stalking.

Ā· DUI conviction(s) within 5 years.

Ā· Currently subject to a restraining order or protection against violence

Ā· You are currently on parole or probation.

Ā· You have been declared mentally incompetent:

o Admitted into a mental health facility within 5 years.

Ā· Medical Marijuana card holder.

Ā· Dishonorable discharge from the military.

Ā· You are prohibited (by state or federal law) from possessing a firearm.

Ā· Unlawfully in the United States.

Ā· False statements on application.


As you can see, North Carolina has quite a few more than we do. We cannot honor North Carolina's permits because the disqualifiers are so different.

Thank you,


Mariah Guerrero
AA IV
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Some more links that might be useful

NV SB175 and NV AB488

NRS chapter 202
 
The biggest help ... that is not going to happen ā€¦ is the NC AG get involved in the matter. BUT we all know liberal idiot Stein ainā€™t 2A friendly and that matter does not even make the bottom of his To Do list.
 
Before traveling, always check with the dept of justice of the states you are traveling to and through. Do not count in NCā€™s website to be correct. NC is a little slow on updating.
 
BigWaylon said:
You can order them from the ATF for free. I have a stack here. The ones I have already have the NFA ORI stamped on them, but not sure it matters. Iā€™m guessing AZ has a label theyā€™d stick on it if theyā€™re actually sending them off for a background check.
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When I got my SC permit I used the ATF cards.
 
vp9c said:
iā€™m still waiting on my AZ permit. june 6 will be 75 business days since they got my application.

i have also been in touch with the person who works in the NV CHP office. she is going to contact me when NC comes up again for reciprocity review.
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Why does AZ have carry permits. Its a permit less carry state.
 
wired said:
Why does AZ have carry permits. Its a permit less carry state.
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I suspect itā€™s because If you travel and want to carry outside of the state of Arizona you need the permit for reciprocity.

Plus I think they have a fairly robust nonresident permit program.
 
vp9c said:
I suspect itā€™s because If you travel and want to carry outside of the state of Arizona you need the permit for reciprocity.

Plus I think they have a fairly robust nonresident permit program.
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not only that, they had to leave some kind of permit process in place to appease the fudd instructors who were going to fight against constitutional carry too much.
I was on a call with one of those guys in texas and i was ... less than polite about it.
 
DrScaryGuy said:
not only that, they had to leave some kind of permit process in place to appease the fudd instructors who were going to fight against constitutional carry too much.
I was on a call with one of those guys in texas and i was ... less than polite about it.
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Its not that theyre so much FUDD . To an extent they are but theyve built a business and a job out of being a firearms instructor. Constitutional carry takes their livelihood away. No saying I agree with it but thats what it is.

I spend a lot of time in Texas for work. More than I like . Texas's love of firearms freedom is WAY overstated. Many places included hotels do not allow even concealed carry and open carry is very rare to see even where it is allowed.
 
When I was in Dallas for the NRA convention, their weapons signs are huge. Funny how 30.06 is one of the law sections.šŸ˜ƒ. Most chain restaurants had been posted.

  • Texas Gun Law Section 30.05 (prohibiting unlicensed carry of firearms on premises)
  • Texas Gun Law Section 30.06 (prohibiting licensed concealed carry firearms on premises)
  • Texas Gun Law Section 30.07 (prohibiting licensed open carry firearms on premises)
  • if displayed, posters must be posted at each entrance to the property and be conspicuous.
 
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Correct me if I am wrong, but since NV and MN recognize it I think the NC CHP is now the most reciprocated carry permit in the country.
 
Rebel1776 said:
Since all of those states in Red don't recognize any out of state permits, we've reached the limit of reciprocity correct?
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I believe that's true. There may be exceptions like states that allow you to get a nonresident permit from them, but I've not kept up on it because I don't plan to visit those places.
 
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