Thanks @Timfoilhat
Would never trust an app for anything that had to do with laws on carrying handguns.
I would not trust either. First off most officers do not know the laws. They only know what laws they inforce. You need to call the DOJ training and ask them. Take names, times and date. Would be best to email them and get it back by email so it is in writing. But when all is said and done, the responsibility is on the person who is carrying. Now about the apps, @Timfoilhat knows this guy personally and I can see why he would trust the APP. What I dont understand why anyone who doesnt know a developer of an app would trust them. Can you use it as a source, yes. But to look at an app and trust what it said is foolish. Maybe the developer died last year and the laws change. Maybe the developer made his money and is not updating the APP. See where I am going! But it is on the internet so it must be true! š¤I'd trust that over a call to the Sheriff/State Police.
While I would not trust it 100% it is useful especially for quick referenc. Also when it comes to travel in other states I will print out that Stateās Laws from their stateās AG, DOJ or such site regarding firearms and conceal carry and have that printed law available to point to any āoverreachingā action. Never had to use either for a LEO interaction but that hard copy on hand is way easier to point to than a little screen reference when talking with a LEO.Would never trust an app for anything that had to do with laws on carrying handguns.
iām still waiting on my AZ permit. june 6 will be 75 business days since they got my application.
interesting. i called last week and iām in background check...My issue date was about a week after I mailed my app to AZ (last week of March to first week of April, 2021). Perhaps you should call AZ to see if they've actually received your application?
so did virginia not take reciprocity away when they went blue? i thought they did, everyone was abuzz about it?I use an app (I know the developer). Here's just NC CHL reciprocity. View attachment 340981
I was wondering the same..so did virginia not take reciprocity away when they went blue? i thought they did, everyone was abuzz about it?
I thought that was the first thing they did once they took over was take reciprocity with NC awayI was wondering the same..
After reading through the North Carolina statutes for what could disqualify you from carrying a concealed weapon, I've found that they are VERY different from ours here in Nevada. I've included what I found below..
North Carolina Disqualifiers:
The applicant has not been adjudicated guilty of, nor received a prayer for Judgment Continued, or suspended sentence for offenses constituting a misdemeanor under the following specific statutes, nor any other crime of violence:Adjudicated as Mentally Defective or been Involuntarily Committed to a mental institution.
- Assault on handicapped person (N.C.G.S 14-32.1)
- Simple Assault (N.C.G.S 14-33(a)), within three years prior to the date on the application.
- Assault inflicting serious injury or using a deadly weapon. (N.C.G.S 14-33(c)(1))
- Assault on a female (N.C.G.S 14-33(c)(2))
- Assault a child under the age of 12 (N.C.G.S 14-33(c)(3))
- Assault inflicting serious injury or using a deadly weapon on a person in a personal relationship and in the presence of a minor. (N.C.G.S 14-33(d))
- Assault by pointing a gun. (N.C.G.S 14-34)
- Manufacture, sale, purchase or possession of Teflon-coated bullets (N.C.G.S 14-34.3)
- Criminal use of a laser device. (N.C.G.S 14-34.8)
- Criminal use of a laser device. (N.C.G.S 14-34.8)
- Domestic criminal trespass (N.C.G.S 14-134.3)
- Violation of court orders (N.C.G.S 14.226.1), within three years prior to the date on the application.
- Furnishing poison, controlled substance, deadly weapons, cartridge, ammunition or alcoholic beverage to inmates of charitable, mental or penal institutions, or local confinement facilities (N.C.G.S 14.258.1), within three years prior to the date on the application
- Carrying weapons on campus or other educational property (N.C.G.S 14.269.2), within three years prior to the date on the application
- Carrying weapons into assemblies and establishments where alcoholic beverages are sold and or consumed (N.C.G.S 14.269.3), within three years prior to the date on the application
- Carry weapons on state property and courthouses (N.C.G.S 14.269.4), within three years prior to the date on the application
- Possession and or sale of spring-loaded projectile knives (N.C.G.S 14.269.6), within three years prior to the date on the application
- Impersonation of a law enforcement officer or other public officer (N.C.G.S 14.277), within three years prior to the date on the application
- Communicating threats (N.C.G.S 14.277.1), within three years prior to the date on the application
- Carry weapons at parades and other public gatherings (N.C.G.S 14.277.2), within three years prior to the date on the application
- Stalking (N.C.G.S 14.277.3)
- Exploding dynamite cartridges and or bombs (N.C.G.S 14.283) Except for a violation involving fireworks N.C.G.S 14-414) , within three years prior to the date on the application
- Rioting and inciting to riot (N.C.G.S 14.288.2) , within three years prior to the date on the application
- Fighting or conduct creating the threat of imminent fighting or other violence (N.C.G.S 14.288.4(a)(1)) , within three years prior to the date on the application
- Making or using any utterance, gesture, display or abusive language which is intended and plainly likely to provoke violent retaliation, and thereby create a breach of peace (N.C.G.S 14.288.4(a)(2))
- Looting and trespassing during an emergency (N.C.G.S 14.288.6) , within three years prior to the date on the application
- Assault on emergency personnel (N.C.G.S 14.288.9) , within three years prior to the date on the application
- Violations of city State of Emergency Ordinances (N.C.G.S 14.288.12) , within three years prior to the date on the application
- Violations of county State of Emergency Ordinances (N.C.G.S 14.288.13) , within three years prior to the date on the application
- Violations of State of Emergency Ordinances (N.C.G.S 14.288.14) , within three years prior to the date on the application
- Child abuse (N.C.G.S 14.318.2)
- Violations of the standards of carrying a concealed weapon (N.C.G.S 14.415.21(b)) Violations of county State of Emergency Ordinances (N.C.G.S 14.288.13) , within three years prior to the date on the application
- Misrepresentation on certification of qualified retired law enforcement officers (N.C.G.S 14.415.26) Violations of county State of Emergency Ordinances (N.C.G.S 14.288.13) , within three years prior to the date on the application
- Domestic violence protective order violations (N.C.G.S 50B-4.1)
- Has been adjudicated guilty or received a prayer for judgment continued or a suspended sentence for crimes involving an assault or a threat to assault a law enforcement officer, probation or parole officer, person employed by the State or local detention facility, firefighter, emergency medical technician, medical responder, or emergency department personnel.
- Any person convicted of āmisdemeanor crime of domestic violenceā as defined in federal law at 18 U.S.C 922(g)(8)
- The person is not free on bond or personal recognizance pending trial, appeal, or sentencing for a crime which would disqualify him/her from obtaining CCH.
- The applicant has not been convicted of an impaired driving offense under any of the following General Statutes with the three years prior to the date on which the application is submitted: (N.C.G.S 20-138.1): Impaired driving (N.C.G.S 20-138.2): Impaired driving in commercial vehicle (N.C.G.S 20-138.3): Driving by person less than 21 years old after consuming alcohol or drugs
Nevada Disqualifiers:
Ā· You are a fugitive from justice.
Ā· Convictions:
Ā· Felony convictions.
Ā· Convicted of a crime involving the use/threat of force, including misdemeanors, within 3 years.
Ā· Convicted of a crime involving Domestic Violence or stalking.
Ā· DUI conviction(s) within 5 years.
Ā· Currently subject to a restraining order or protection against violence
Ā· You are currently on parole or probation.
Ā· You have been declared mentally incompetent:
o Admitted into a mental health facility within 5 years.
Ā· Medical Marijuana card holder.
Ā· Dishonorable discharge from the military.
Ā· You are prohibited (by state or federal law) from possessing a firearm.
Ā· Unlawfully in the United States.
Ā· False statements on application.
As you can see, North Carolina has quite a few more than we do. We cannot honor North Carolina's permits because the disqualifiers are so different.
Thank you,
Mariah Guerrero
AA IV
When did that happen and where did you hear it?Damnit Minnesota!
Still no NC reciprocity
@GRNC any help with this
FWIW Nevada began to recognize NC again!
They publish their stuff every July I guessWhen did that happen and where did you hear it?
Works for me! I hadnāt heard that until now thanksThey publish their stuff every July I guess
When I got my SC permit I used the ATF cards.You can order them from the ATF for free. I have a stack here. The ones I have already have the NFA ORI stamped on them, but not sure it matters. Iām guessing AZ has a label theyād stick on it if theyāre actually sending them off for a background check.
Why does AZ have carry permits. Its a permit less carry state.iām still waiting on my AZ permit. june 6 will be 75 business days since they got my application.
i have also been in touch with the person who works in the NV CHP office. she is going to contact me when NC comes up again for reciprocity review.
I suspect itās because If you travel and want to carry outside of the state of Arizona you need the permit for reciprocity.Why does AZ have carry permits. Its a permit less carry state.
not only that, they had to leave some kind of permit process in place to appease the fudd instructors who were going to fight against constitutional carry too much.I suspect itās because If you travel and want to carry outside of the state of Arizona you need the permit for reciprocity.
Plus I think they have a fairly robust nonresident permit program.
Its not that theyre so much FUDD . To an extent they are but theyve built a business and a job out of being a firearms instructor. Constitutional carry takes their livelihood away. No saying I agree with it but thats what it is.not only that, they had to leave some kind of permit process in place to appease the fudd instructors who were going to fight against constitutional carry too much.
I was on a call with one of those guys in texas and i was ... less than polite about it.
Since all of those states in Red don't recognize any out of state permits, we've reached the limit of reciprocity correct?
I believe that's true. There may be exceptions like states that allow you to get a nonresident permit from them, but I've not kept up on it because I don't plan to visit those places.Since all of those states in Red don't recognize any out of state permits, we've reached the limit of reciprocity correct?