This one? https://www.clouddefensive.com/trade-in/They have a trade in program, so do it.
I thought that one was just a send us any crappy working light and we'll give you $100 towards a CD light?
This one? https://www.clouddefensive.com/trade-in/They have a trade in program, so do it.
I would do it, because $100 bucks isn’t worth an old Rein, but yeah that’s the program.This one? https://www.clouddefensive.com/trade-in/
I thought that one was just a send us any crappy working light and we'll give you $100 towards a CD light?
Looks like they do. Weird, they said they were discontinuing it awhile back.Im pretty sure the owl is back in stock
Beat me to it, was coming here to post the same thing.Looks like Modlite has a new light coming to market at the end of January that is using a slightly larger battery (21700 vs 18650) and is showing some IMPRESSIVE Candela numbers:
MODLITE HOG HANDHELD LIGHT
LAUNCHING JANUARY 20TH AT 9AM CST Price: $349.Built for maximum performance and output. The HOG handheld blasts through photonic barriers and lights up spaces allowing you to never miss a thing. The HOG handheld package contains a light head of your chosen emitter, 21700 handheld body/tailcap, a...modlite.com
OKW specs:
PLHv2 specs:
- 720 Lumens
- 170,000 Candela
- Constant on runtime 3 hours and 10 minutes
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- 1350 Lumens
- 120,000 Candela
- Constant on runtime 2½ hours
I was hoping you would take the Modlite plunge on this one for T&E purposes! I'm curious IF they will eventually release this as a WML. The change in battery means that the light bodies and head most likely will NOT be compatible with existing lights, and more specifically with Surefire bodies and switches.Beat me to it, was coming here to post the same thing.
Holy hell, those are some insane numbers that thing is pushing. Think I found my next light..
This is probably the light that makes me take the plunge. It’s going to be an absolute spotlight.I was hoping you would take the Modlite plunge on this one for T&E purposes! I'm curious IF they will eventually release this as a WML. The change in battery means that the light bodies and head most likely will NOT be compatible with existing lights, and more specifically with Surefire bodies and switches.
Speaking of the Candela numbers the current OKW head is 69k and works very well out to ~250yds, and the PLHv2 is 54k. The Hog OKW is 170k Candela which I just can't imagine what that is going to look like...laser beam-esque is my best guess!!
...and the OWL is now to become extinct "again":Looks like they do. Weird, they said they were discontinuing it awhile back.
...and the OWL is now to become extinct "again":
@Bunsen @Derek8404
I'm new to expensive flashlights and need help.
I need to order a couple weapon lights to replace ancient stuff. I need at least one with a remote tailswitch, and a tailcap that also has a button as well as a switch is preferred but not strictly required. The other I want a tailcap button and a remote switch for. 1 with an MLOK mount, one with a Picatinny inline mount.
Looks like I have a few options.
1. SurefireM640DF: $400-470? $323 for the light, plus either an $80 remote switch tailcap or a $150 DS07 setup. Includes MLOK mount(so I have to buy a Picatinny mount). It is compatible with all the Surefire accessories, but the throw performance is very outdated, and that expensive tape switch might not carry enough amps for a better head if I ever upgrade. So the head and the tapeswitch are outdated out of the box on a 400$ light. I've found plenty of threads with complaints of failures or flickering, reliability is a concern.
2. CD Rein 3.0. $305? Great throw performance. Remote switch can handle all the power. Specifically states it works with all the types of 18650s, not sure about the others. Includes Picatinny mount(so I have to buy an MLOK mount). Not compatible with anything except SF mounts. I like that the remote tape switch wire doesn't come out of the back of the switch where my hand will hit it and wear it out. Lifetime warranty.
3. Arisaka 18650 light, with 1 mount, still $416-455$ with the DS07-SR depending on which head I use. I could get a Unity switch instead of the Surefire to carry more current for a bit more money and futureproofing, the head performs much better than the Surefire. Arisaka 600 series lights aren't that much cheaper.
4. Wait for the Surefire M640DF turbo, then wait for it to be in stock and for prices to drop like they did the x300 Turbo, and hope it's more reliable than the M640DF, and that the price isn't ridiculous. It will be higher than the M640DF.
How would you rate the reliability of these lights?
Can the CD Rein 3.0 remote switch be detached so I can use only the button? I can't seem to find an example of people doing this.
Are there any known CD durability issues?
What would you do in this situation? I probably won't buy any more weapon lights for a long time. The Rein 3.0 has the best performance, configuration, and wire routing options(I think), and is significantly cheaper than the others(if there's a cheaper place to buy any of these, please let me know). It just isn't Surefire compatible, and you're stuck with the Rein switch. The upcoming Surefire might be great. My x300 Turbo is. And I'd very much like to be in the Surefire ecosystem. But the Surefires look expensive and unreliable, and the Arisakas cost 416$.
I just bought a modern, quality, optics ready made in America handgun for $400 after rebate- and it came with a red dot sight. $300+ per light is a lot to throw around and I want to make the right choice.
I can't really recommend CD currently as they have had issues with the Rein 2.0 switches and the MCH's run quite hot (120F). They have great ideas, but they have just experienced so much growth since the Rein 1.0 & OWL launched it's like a completely different company. as @Derek8404 indicated the CD switch and tailcap are a combo unit. They do offer a tailcap only option fro $45. I do have two Rein 1.0 and REALLY like those, but my MCH is just bleh.@Bunsen @Derek8404
I'm new to expensive flashlights and need help.
I need to order a couple weapon lights to replace ancient stuff. I need at least one with a remote tailswitch, and a tailcap that also has a button as well as a switch is preferred but not strictly required. The other I want a tailcap button and a remote switch for. 1 with an MLOK mount, one with a Picatinny inline mount.
Looks like I have a few options.
1. SurefireM640DF: $400-470? $323 for the light, plus either an $80 remote switch tailcap or a $150 DS07 setup. Includes MLOK mount(so I have to buy a Picatinny mount). It is compatible with all the Surefire accessories, but the throw performance is very outdated, and that expensive tape switch might not carry enough amps for a better head if I ever upgrade. So the head and the tapeswitch are outdated out of the box on a 400$ light. I've found plenty of threads with complaints of failures or flickering, reliability is a concern.
2. CD Rein 3.0. $305? Great throw performance. Remote switch can handle all the power. Specifically states it works with all the types of 18650s, not sure about the others. Includes Picatinny mount(so I have to buy an MLOK mount). Not compatible with anything except SF mounts. I like that the remote tape switch wire doesn't come out of the back of the switch where my hand will hit it and wear it out. Lifetime warranty.
3. Arisaka 18650 light, with 1 mount, still $416-455$ with the DS07-SR depending on which head I use. I could get a Unity switch instead of the Surefire to carry more current for a bit more money and futureproofing, the head performs much better than the Surefire. Arisaka 600 series lights aren't that much cheaper.
4. Wait for the Surefire M640DF turbo, then wait for it to be in stock and for prices to drop like they did the x300 Turbo, and hope it's more reliable than the M640DF, and that the price isn't ridiculous. It will be higher than the M640DF.
How would you rate the reliability of these lights?
Can the CD Rein 3.0 remote switch be detached so I can use only the button? I can't seem to find an example of people doing this.
Are there any known CD durability issues?
What would you do in this situation? I probably won't buy any more weapon lights for a long time. The Rein 3.0 has the best performance, configuration, and wire routing options(I think), and is significantly cheaper than the others(if there's a cheaper place to buy any of these, please let me know). It just isn't Surefire compatible, and you're stuck with the Rein switch. The upcoming Surefire might be great. My x300 Turbo is. And I'd very much like to be in the Surefire ecosystem. But the Surefires look expensive and unreliable, and the Arisakas cost 416$.
I just bought a modern, quality, optics ready made in America handgun for $400 after rebate- and it came with a red dot sight. $300+ per light is a lot to throw around and I want to make the right choice.
I can't really recommend CD currently as they have had issues with the Rein 2.0 switches and the MCH's run quite hot (120F). They have great ideas, but they have just experienced so much growth since the Rein 1.0 & OWL launched it's like a completely different company. as @Derek8404 indicated the CD switch and tailcap are a combo unit. They do offer a tailcap only option fro $45. I do have two Rein 1.0 and REALLY like those, but my MCH is just bleh.
I started down this rabbit hole of high end flashlights with a Surefire M640DF. Yes, the Surefire eco-system of switches is stupid expensive mainly because it's MIL or LE Agencies footing the bill typically. I've ended up in the Modlite camp and also run Mod buttons instead of SF switches. The most economical way to get into the SF/Mod/Arisaka ecosystem is to watch for BLEM's and the annual sales. Also I stick with Modlite batteries.
Side note Modlite actually makes dual fuel legacy enhanced heads for 16mm thread pitched older lights:
Should have waited till next month when they drop the 4.0 😂😂 I’m just kidding, congrats on the purchases, I’ll be watching to see some reviews after you get to test them out.@Bunsen @Derek8404 Thanks for the help. I did order 2 Rein 3.0s. It is just too hard to pay nearly 30-50% more to get the same switching redundancy and performance, without even getting the dual fuel.
As for Streamlight, I have a Protac 1. The pitiful performance at range is why I want to switch. I could never have shot Tim's night vision match with it, and that only went to 120 or so yard shots.
I tested a Protac HL-X. I'm sure the performance is adequate for any reasonable self defense. But the tape switch either was broken out of the box or broke while trying to fit it on the gun. Unacceptable durability. They don't even offer replacement tape switches! The tape switch is also too large to fit anywhere on my gun where it can be reached in a firing grip, and of course there are no smaller aftermarket switches. The form factor doesn't allow the light to be mounted on the left forward side for tailcap activation. I considered cutting a remote switch off and soldering a Chinese tape switch to the tailcap lead. I could throw more money at Streamlight, but the durability and support are not there.
I am interested in hearing what the issues with the Rein 2.0 switches were. I've heard about many issues with ModButtons(I looked at them for LAMs) but never had to pay attention to REIN switches.
@Derek8404 You were close! Looks like they just announced the upgraded MCH!!!