I don't think it's a freedom of speech issue when they are saying we need it to be smaller.
Ok a question on that thought. Why do the they need it to be smaller. If it is a safety issue then I understand. If not it boils down to a whizzing contest.
I don't think it's a freedom of speech issue when they are saying we need it to be smaller.
That is what everything with city government comes down too.Ok a question on that thought. Why do the they need it to be smaller. If it is a safety issue then I understand. If not it boils down to a whizzing contest.
That is what everything with city government comes down too.
In other words a giant HOA.
I understand that part, but I'm sure Zoning was pressured by the city council or city officials. They also have much better things to do. Look around there are plenty of things for them to stress on.The people that enforce zoning are not the same ones that fight crime--and they aren't interchangeable (meaning you can't just reassign the zoning folks to go stop drug dealers).
Well, just for the sake of argument, I think that's debateable. You can say what you want to say, but you have to go stand in a corner and keep your voice down.I don't think it's a freedom of speech issue when they are saying we need it to be smaller.
Well, just for the sake of argument, I think that's debateable. You can say what you want to say, but you have to go stand in a corner and keep your voice down.
Kind of a two edge sword isn't it? If more respected that pledge, wouldn't we be better off? It's all about what it represents or what it should represent.
I have gotten my second response from a council member. Here are both responses.
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The CEO's motives are to advertise and call attention to the locations with the larger than life flag. And if he gets fines and lots of stories he gets attention to his stores. He's no damn patriot much like those guys who put bible verses on business cards to entice you to believe all their business dealings are of christian sponsorship. I'm all for freedom and flags but he's a crock of poo. Has been, always will be.
Especially when he is more intelligent than the government employees.
Do you know the guy personally?The CEO's motives are to advertise and call attention to the locations with the larger than life flag. And if he gets fines and lots of stories he gets attention to his stores. He's no damn patriot much like those guys who put bible verses on business cards to entice you to believe all their business dealings are of christian sponsorship. I'm all for freedom and flags but he's a crock of poo. Has been, always will be.
Do you know the guy personally?
If our country is to exist the rule of law must be foremost in our actions and activities..
Bwahahahahahahahahahahah
You live in the world you want.
And I will mine.
Freedom doesn't come cheap.
Ps. If my neighbor wants to fly a huge flag, then God bless him.
freakin' city people.
I can’t hold that against him by itself because he simply believed the Fine People hoax like half the nation. He *SHOULD* be pissed off if he believed that BS. But now I know he’s gullible...Marcus Lemonis had some choice words on Wednesday about those who may support President Donald Trump's response to the violent white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.
Despite the rules/etiquette of (what's supposed to be) one of most sacred symbols???
Thats all you got?So, if your neighbor way out in the country wants to turn his land into a landfill with a 20 story incinerator belching smoke and stench your way, you'd have no problem with it?
I wish this country still valued and stood for those things instead of greed, gluttony, war mongering for profit, and corporatism.I would argue that reverence for the symbol, while important, ranks less than reverence for the object which the symbol is purported to represent: Liberty and the Rights of Man.
So, if your neighbor way out in the country wants to turn his land into a landfill with a 20 story incinerator belching smoke and stench your way, you'd have no problem with it?
"Still stood for those things?"!!
When did it start standing for those things?
You can throw out the first 1/3 of the history of the country (during the period where you could own people).
In fact, you can throw out all of US history up to the point where half the citizens couldn't vote (60% of our history).
What period between 1920 and now was the time when the US represented these liberties and freedoms you hold dear? And when did it stop for you? I'd argue that the US continues to improve as time goes on. Sure we have our things we grumble and disagree about, but if I were anything other than a straight white man, I wouldn't get in a time machine and go back to any previous decade in our history.
Do you think a black person would jump at the chance to live in the US in the 1960s, 50s? Do you think a gay person who wants equality would go back to... oh... 2013?
This country is pretty great, and gets better the more we embrace equality-for-all. IMO. I'll take my America in the modern age, warts and all.
Did you REALLY just say, “throw out” history?
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"Still stood for those things?"!!
When did it start standing for those things?
You can throw out the first 1/3 of the history of the country (during the period where you could own people).
In fact, you can throw out all of US history up to the point where half the citizens couldn't vote (60% of our history).
What period between 1920 and now was the time when the US represented these liberties and freedoms you hold dear? And when did it stop for you? I'd argue that the US continues to improve as time goes on. Sure we have our things we grumble and disagree about, but if I were anything other than a straight white man, I wouldn't get in a time machine and go back to any previous decade in our history.
Do you think a black person would jump at the chance to live in the US in the 1960s, 50s? Do you think a gay person who wants equality would go back to... oh... 2013?
This country is pretty great, and gets better the more we embrace equality-for-all. IMO. I'll take my America in the modern age, warts and all.
I would argue that without the first third, it is highly unlikely that women, black folks, or gays would enjoy even a sliver of the equal Rights they enjoy today - despite our failing to fully live up the the ideals upon which the Republic was founded.
In fact, I would argue without Thomas Jefferson, that guy from Virginia that was so terrible because he was white and owned slaves, none of the improvements you argue happened in spite of would have occurred.
Why?
Because Thomas Jefferson wrote the 55 most consequential words of American history - words that have been a direct cause of every expansion of Rights in these United States and across the Western world (and even some parts of the East) and remains a potent rebuke against rising tyranny regardless of the culture that produces it.
The founders recognized chattel slavery was incompatible with the principles which the Revolution proclaimed..... which is one reason they struck from Jefferson's first draft the charges that George III was culpable for slavery and the slave trade (though Jefferson may have still made is point by not including the word "Property" among certain inalienable Rights).
When Lincoln spoke at Gettysburg, he spoke of a proposition that founded the Republic - Jefferson wrote it.
When women gathered at Seneca Falls to demand the Right to vote, who did they quote? Jefferson and the Declaration of 13 colonies of "evil white men."
When Martin Luther King spoke at the Lincoln Memorial and spoke of a promissary note, that note was scribbled down by Jefferson and unanimously passed by those evil white men.
The words of our founding were part of the original Constitution of Vietnam proposed by a guy named Ho Chi Minh (wrap your head around that one) and were chanted in Tianammen Square as Chinese tanks ran over people demanding their Rights be respected.
The first 1/3rd of this country's history is absolutely Indispensable in creating the world you judge to be so much better, without which this world you laud would simply not exist.
The fact that you are so emotionally critical of history without a shred of understanding of the impacts that history has brought about is almost a stereotypical symbol for 21st century America.
I will not deny we have never fully lived up to our ideals; who has?
I haven't.
You haven't.
None of us have.
But they give us something to strive for, to chase, to take us towards the horizon of realizing that which we proclaim.
Unreal.
Absolutely. “Angry” is a bit too powerful a solvent to use there. “Slightly miffed” is what I’d choose.Do you get angry at the Thin Blue Line flags?
Because it’s easy to challenge a denial of a variance in the future if they’re inconsistent now.I guarantee if you talk to any of the planners and it's not a complaint issue... it's a consistency issue. They get really weird about that sort of thing-
Codes limit size of signs. Codes beautify buildings by requiring walls hide mechanical equipment. Codes address distance from the street. Size of the flag is no different. It’s a distraction while driving that can cause wrecks. This is why some signs abilities to add technology is limited, as well as height.
You want that monster in front of your house on the neighbors land blocking the sun? Of course not. Jeez.
It’s a distraction while driving that can cause wrecks.
This sign is along a highway.You want that monster in front of your house on the neighbors land blocking the sun? Of course not. Jeez.
LOL sir. You know people can’t even glance at a wreck without wrecking.So I have to suffer, because some people can't glance at a sign and not wreck?
It's akin to gun control, some people shoot others and I have to suffer regulations....
This sign is along a highway.
And it's shadow prolly never comes off the property.