Conceal carrying at 18 nc

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All you need is a non resident New Hampshire permit .(it’s valid for 5 years,only have to be 18,only costs 100 dollars with and no redundant training class or fingerprints ) I’ve verified this with multiple sheriffs departments(although some were unaware until I explained it to them,and my lawyer who said I may be arrested if an officer is unaware but the case will be dismissed )

The reason this is legal is because nc has reciprocity with other states permits and North Carolina law says nothing about having to be 21 to conceal carry ,it just says you have to be 21 to get a nc conceal carry ,I still have to buy guns private sale with my nc pistol purchase permit though .
 
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North Carolina also allows out-of-state concealed handgun permittees to carry concealed handguns, pursuant to such permits, in North Carolina. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-415.24(a).

While carrying a handgun pursuant to such permit, qualified out-of-state permittees are held to the same standards as North Carolina permittees.
 
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In my mind, whether you’re “legal” or not isn‘t the issue. The issue is whether you’re willing to chance arrest and arraignment trying to prove your attorney’s interpretation is valid.
 
I'm leaning towards no longer giving much care to the written law. I'll live by 'natural' rights and deal with whatever comes.

The only problem I have is the grumpy ass old man in me wanting to edit and rewrite your OP so it resembles English.
 
go for it and let us know how it goes

it does sound legal to me

how does an 18 year old go about purchasing a handgun in NC? Do you only need to be 18 to get a purchase permit?
 
if you can get a pistol purchase permit at 18 and it’s clear that the state does not prohibit you from owning a handgun. Non-resident permit is a “loophole” but it seems legitimate to me.

I seriously doubt that North Carolina police officers would throw an 18-year-old New Hampshire resident in jail because they were carrying in NC with a valid New Hampshire permit. why would they do it to a North Carolina resident? because he or she was smart enough to beat the system?
 
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Tim said:
The only problem I have is the grumpy ass old man in me wanting to edit and rewrite your OP so it resembles English.
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I came this close to editing a couple of his before I even saw your post…even if it was to do nothing other than moving the spaces to after the commas instead of before. 🤓
 
From New Hampshire's website

It is extremely important that all license holders be aware of the laws and requirements of all reciprocating states when visiting/traveling. Possession of a license does not supersede any other state's laws or license requirements. License holders are subject to the laws of the state they are visiting.

If you are a New Hampshire Pistol/Revolver License holder traveling to another state and wish to carry a concealed weapon using your New Hampshire license, contact that state directly to confirm their recognition status before carrying concealed weapons there. For example, some states only recognize a license if the person is 21 years of age or older.
 
Mike79 said:
From New Hampshire's website

It is extremely important that all license holders be aware of the laws and requirements of all reciprocating states when visiting/traveling. Possession of a license does not supersede any other state's laws or license requirements. License holders are subject to the laws of the state they are visiting.

If you are a New Hampshire Pistol/Revolver License holder traveling to another state and wish to carry a concealed weapon using your New Hampshire license, contact that state directly to confirm their recognition status before carrying concealed weapons there. For example, some states only recognize a license if the person is 21 years of age or older.
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But his attorney said…
 
You didn't mention how much your lawyer will charge to get you bailed out either? 'Cause you might just end up in the pokey until the trial or the DA decides to throw it out...or not.
 
I don’t think anyone here is arguing with your prerogative to “give it a go”. And, we all hope for the best if you encounter an LEO with a different interpretation of NC law. However, for the benefit of other young people who may eventually stumble onto this thread, we simply want to point out the risk of at least taking an unscheduled/unwanted ride in the back of a cruiser. ;)
 
The sheriff offices you talked to has no business telling you what's legal and what's not. You need to contact the DOJ of nc and talk to them.
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Still North Carolina law doesn’t say anything about being 21 to conceal carry only That you have to be 21 to get a conceal carry.I have also contacted multiple sheriffs departments and they also said it was legal.
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Mike79 said:
From New Hampshire's website

It is extremely important that all license holders be aware of the laws and requirements of all reciprocating states when visiting/traveling. Possession of a license does not supersede any other state's laws or license requirements. License holders are subject to the laws of the state they are visiting.

If you are a New Hampshire Pistol/Revolver License holder traveling to another state and wish to carry a concealed weapon using your New Hampshire license, contact that state directly to confirm their recognition status before carrying concealed weapons there. For example, some states only recognize a license if the person is 21 years of age or older.
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I haven’t gone back to reread the NC statute, but I can imagine it saying concealed carry is illegal unless one has a valid permit, then the terms to get an NC permit are 21+, oh and btw we also recognize permits from the below states. It makes complete sense that there would be a loophole, but OP must understand that it’s a loophole.

If I were OP, I’d carry printed copies of the relevant statutes and a link to them in my phone just in case you need to convince an officer not to arrest you.
 
LeeMajors said:
The sheriff offices you talked to has no business telling you what's legal and what's not. You need to contact the DOJ of nc and talk to them.
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I had occasion to speak with our Sheriff himself about a firearms law question. We had a lovely conversation but I’m quite convinced his understanding of that specific law is 100% incorrect.
 
Jeppo said:
I had occasion to speak with our Sheriff himself about a firearms law question. We had a lovely conversation but I’m quite convinced his understanding of the specific law is 100% incorrect.
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It doesn't matter what his( or his deputies)understanding is, in the end. That's the courts job.
 
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I do understand it’s a loophole but it’s really my only option,and not sure if you’re joking or not but I’m 100 gonna make copies of the statutes , thanks.
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Nope, not joking. It’s a simple and cheap way to potentially save yourself a ride, if the officer is willing to hear you out of course. Good luck!
 
Alex.r said:
Yeah my attorney said so as well if the officer is uninformed . but she said it’d be dismissed if I was arrested ,but still it’s better than not carrying at all,and I’ve had a friend get pulled over while carrying and they told the officer they had a permit immediately and that they were carrying. Officer didn’t even say anything about it.
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Irony: Only those who are NC residents and legally carrying concealed with an NC must disclose this. Non-residents with permits do not have to.
Criminals in unlawful possession of a firearm have no duty to disclose and cannot be prosecuted for failing to disclose. Criminals can't be forced to admit to a crime.
 
fishgutzy said:
Irony: Only those who are NC residents and legally carrying concealed with an NC must disclose this. Non-residents with permits do not have to.
Criminals in unlawful possession of a firearm have no duty to disclose and cannot be prosecuted for failing to disclose. Criminals can't be forced to admit to a crime.
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Where did you get the duty to inform information? Because it isn't correct. A non resident must follow the NC law.
 
Mike79 said:
North Carolina also allows out-of-state concealed handgun permittees to carry concealed handguns, pursuant to such permits, in North Carolina. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-415.24(a).

While carrying a handgun pursuant to such permit, qualified out-of-state permittees are held to the same standards as North Carolina permittees.
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Quoted for truth. This is spot-on.


Mike79 said:
From New Hampshire's website

It is extremely important that all license holders be aware of the laws and requirements of all reciprocating states when visiting/traveling. Possession of a license does not supersede any other state's laws or license requirements. License holders are subject to the laws of the state they are visiting.

If you are a New Hampshire Pistol/Revolver License holder traveling to another state and wish to carry a concealed weapon using your New Hampshire license, contact that state directly to confirm their recognition status before carrying concealed weapons there. For example, some states only recognize a license if the person is 21 years of age or older.
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This underscores the above post that I quoted for truth!


LeeMajors said:
The sheriff offices you talked to has no business telling you what's legal and what's not. You need to contact the DOJ of nc and talk to them.
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Absolutely. Representatives of the judicial branch of government are who one should consult for interpretation of laws -- hence the solid referral to the NC DOJ. It always baffles me when people call the Sheriff's office asking for legal interpretation ... since LEOs aren't supposed to interpret laws, at all; their job is to blindly (so as to be just) enforce them hence the term 'law enforcement officer'.
 
surrealone said:
Quoted for truth. This is spot-on.



This underscores the above post that I quoted for truth!



Absolutely. Representatives of the judicial branch of government are who one should consult for interpretation of laws -- hence the solid referral to the NC DOJ. It always baffles me when people call the Sheriff's office asking for legal interpretation ... since LEOs aren't supposed to interpret laws, at all; their job is to blindly (so as to be just) enforce them hence the term 'law enforcement officer'.
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It sounds like you’re confusing qualifications to obtain a permit and laws governing permit holders.

By that logic, is a 16yo’s Montana driver license not valid in NJ (min 17 restricted, 18 unrestricted)?
 
surrealone said:
It always baffles me when people call the Sheriff's office asking for legal interpretation ... since LEOs aren't supposed to interpret laws, at all; their job is to blindly (so as to be just) enforce them hence the term 'law enforcement officer'.
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In the case of my conversation with The Sheriff, no reason to be baffled. My firearms-related question had to do with his office’s issuance of permits. 🤓
 
LeeMajors said:
Where did you get the duty to inform information? Because it isn't correct. A non resident must follow the NC law.
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I stand corrected. But criminals, resident or out of state, are not required to disclose and cannot be charged for failing to disclose.
That is a stupid law and only puts lawful gun owners at risk from Barney Fifes.
 
surrealone said:
Quoted for truth. This is spot-on.



This underscores the above post that I quoted for truth!



Absolutely. Representatives of the judicial branch of government are who one should consult for interpretation of laws -- hence the solid referral to the NC DOJ. It always baffles me when people call the Sheriff's office asking for legal interpretation ... since LEOs aren't supposed to interpret laws, at all; their job is to blindly (so as to be just) enforce them hence the term 'law enforcement officer'.
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FYI DOJ is not the judicial branch.
 
vp9c said:
I read the law is saying you need to be 21 to apply for an NC CHP.

I do not see any statute that says you need to be 21 to carry concealed. Then it comes back to the North Carolina honors all valid carry permits language.

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I guess they forgot language to many other states have regarding reciprocity. Many states do not recognize out of non-resident permits for residents in the state. Florida, if I recall correctly, is one.
 
Cowboy said:
FYI DOJ is not the judicial branch.
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Thanks for the correction; you're so on point: I totally spaced that! (It is, indeed, the executive branch's office that oversees prosecutors and advises the governor of and state-level executive departments on legal matters.) DUH
 
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