Conceal carrying at 18 nc

Some clarity... NC law states you must be 21 or older to apply...so if you can't apply no reason to spell it out you can't do what the permit would allow.

Also some states only recognize out of state permits if the holder is from that state...NC law doesn't state anything about it.
 
Alex.r said:
A conceal carry charge is a misdemeanor in North Carolina anyways ,itā€™s not like bail would be expensive ,plus itā€™s the only way I can legally exercise my 2nd amendment right ,other than open carrying but Iā€™d rather not.
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As others have said, you may or may not get charged, and you probably won't get convicted due to how the law is written...
but take my advice on this - the ride to getting your case tossed is BUMPY.
I was caught with a gun on campus in MI, which was entirely legal because the law only specifies certain parts of campus that are prohibited.
4 court appearances and 10 months later, they finally dropped the case and admitted in court that they had never had anything to charge me with.
It took more than another month to get the JUDGE to issue an order saying my case was dismissed with prejudice, and the state was REQUIRED to return my gun and carry license.

If you are going to go this route, and you trust your lawyer's opinion... make a deal with that lawyer. you pay $500 up front. That will be your flat fee for defense if you get charged with possession of a concealed firearm, and the agreement is good until you turn 21. what happens to the money afterwards is irrelevant.
Find a lawyer who will back their interpretation with their own time.
You don't want to be scrambling for a lawyer with your appearance in court pending, because suddenly no lawyer is going to be quite as confident. I had to do my own legal research and consult a few different lawyers until i found one specializing in gun laws who THOUGHT it would be an easy win... they were NOT pleased at the bad deal they made me (flat $500 for those 4 appearances)
 
Thinking it through, your most likely event for an encounter with officer Notso Friendly is a traffic incident. Open carry in your car. Problem solved. No need to inform on open carry, just make sure itā€™s openly visible. When not in your car, keep your mouth shut.

Likelihood of issues: low.
 
Will you crabby old men stop being crabby old men already? We got a nice young man here, well spoken and respectful of you-all, who has stated his position and background and why he choses to do what he feels is important to him.
He's done his homework, and though none of you can prove him wrong you're bending over backwards trying to tell him why he's wrong. He's old enough to fight in a war and because of that most of you have endorsed his right to partake in the Constitution on many previous occasions. And in this particular case, it appears he's got the Government by the nutz. I admire that. Well done.
Offer advice of experience perhaps, but stop with the contortions and stop being so heavy. This is exactly the kind of young people we should be welcoming into our home.
 
Alex.r said:
I will definitely take this advice ,i plan on getting me nc conceal carry as soon as I turn 21 anyways to make things easy ,she did say she would represent me if I were to get charged with anything.
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Alex.r said:
Iā€™ve been doing this ever since I got my first handgun ,figured the only time Iā€™m gonna encounter a cop is getting pulled over so I open carried in the car and risked concealed carrying in public.i no longer have to do this though when I got my conceal carry a while back
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So, you are not 21 yet, so how do these two statements pan out? Are you referring to a NH out of state permit in the second statement? Maybe it is your typing style but I am having a very hard time following you.
 
Have not nor will I give advice or my personal feelings about the law or how to apply it in this case.
Let's look at the good and or bad here.

Best case scenario he carries a handgun and never has any interaction with a need to use it or law enforcement of any kind.

On the other hand several bad situations could arise such as....

Get stopped in this county the Sheriff and all his sworn deputies say it is OK...by a state trooper...OP declares his CCW and permit etc...trooper starts heading down the road of taking OP into custody but hold up you begin to "educate" said trooper....as he begins to pull you out of your vehicle through the window you realize it has gone bad....best case you only get the quick trip out the window to the ground and are taken into custody and as stated you MIGHT beat the rap but ya ain't gonna beat the RIDE.

Several other situations can be laid out for OP....it is up to you how you're going to conduct yourself just be ready to pay the price when doing so.
 
Jeppo said:
In my mind, whether youā€™re ā€œlegalā€ or not isnā€˜t the issue. The issue is whether youā€™re willing to chance arrest and arraignment trying to prove your attorneyā€™s interpretation is valid.
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Reminds me of an old saying. Something about whether the squeeze is worth the price or something. Then again I am in full support of any attempt to carry, even if the ā€˜manā€™ says no.
LeeMajors said:
The sheriff offices you talked to has no business telling you what's legal and what's not. You need to contact the DOJ of nc and talk to them.
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Is that the group run by the Soros elected Mr Stein? So heā€™s basically screwed.
 
Good luck OP. Just because you're 18 and think you're grown you may be but I hope that when you get older you will realize how little you did know. There is a Mark Twain quote in there.

Just because you think you have found a back door way to carry concealed do realize that there are cops out there just a few years older than you who are full of piss and vinegar and want to get as many arrests as they can. You meet one of those and you will take a ride. You do this in certain counties and the DA will eat your lawyer for a snack and you will then carry a charge that won't come off your record. Then you will never get a concealed carry permit or maybe legally own a gun again.

Slow down. Three years seems like a lifetime. It isn't. The smartest thing you can do is this:

Don't be around stupid people, doing stupid things, in stupid places, at the stupid time of day or night. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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My opinion. And worth what you paid for it.

Canceled is concealed. If you are a Responsible person who uses situational awareness to stay out of trouble then the only way anyone will know you are carrying is if you have to use it.


And at that point itā€™s better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6.
 
whoah, that's 2 incidents and you're only 19?
some would say you need to make better choices. others would say you need to move.
i say you got real bad luck, so keep your head on a swivel and keep your wits when things pop off.
 
Read most of these and skimmed some.

DA to jury: "NC law states, 'According to the North Carolina instructions: A North Carolina Resident is an individual who is domiciled in North Carolina at any time during the tax year. If you resided in the state for more than 183 days in the state during the tax year, you will be considered a resident.' Ladys and gentlemen of the jury, you can't be a resident of North Carolina and use an out of state Conceal Carry permit. I beseech you, nay, implore you to throw this villian into the crevasse lest we give rise to NAY, a thousand Kyle Rittenhouses; spilling innocent blood all over our prestine, fine, carolina blue sky, state in which you the jury have come to call home after leaving your yankee homes."
 
As everybody has prettymuch weighed in on the OP's "loophole" position I'll abstain since my opinion would be redundant. What I can do is impart some wisdom gleaned from having watched the Rittenhouse trial. His social media was scoured during discovery and then used against him in his trial. He used a profile photo of himself with his M&P15, and was quoted for his screen name and "just trying to be famous"... so my advice to you is to lose the avatar picture of a violent drug lord from a movie. Don't help them in hanging you if you find yourself in court on a gun related charge.
 
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Goofyfoot2001 said:
Read most of these and skimmed some.

DA to jury: "NC law states, 'According to the North Carolina instructions: A North Carolina Resident is an individual who is domiciled in North Carolina at any time during the tax year. If you resided in the state for more than 183 days in the state during the tax year, you will be considered a resident.' Ladys and gentlemen of the jury, you can't be a resident of North Carolina and use an out of state Conceal Carry permit. I beseech you, nay, implore you to throw this villian into the crevasse lest we give rise to NAY, a thousand Kyle Rittenhouses; spilling innocent blood all over our prestine, fine, carolina blue sky, state in which you the jury have come to call home after leaving your yankee homes."
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I was going to bring this up, most states I have taken the time to look into, specifically state that for a resident of that state to CC within their borders, he or she must have a resident CWP/CCP of their state, they do not recognize non resident permits if you are a resident of their state (ie if you wanna carry concealed legally, and are a resident of SC, they will only recognize your right to do so with a ā€œresidentā€ SCCWP.)
 
weā€™ve already had several people here contact the NC DOJ to confirm that an NC resident can legally carry with a non-resident permit from a different state. There is no statute requiring an NC permit for NC residents.

unless this statute along with the ā€œmust be 21ā€ to conceal in NC are subsections under the bill of sale statute! šŸ˜‚
 
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BigWaylon said:
I came this close to editing a couple of his before I even saw your postā€¦even if it was to do nothing other than moving the spaces to after the commas instead of before. šŸ¤“
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hp468 said:
I gotta say, the more I think about this, the more I like the idea. Itā€™s like the temp Vermont registration game for acquiring titles to older vehicles/motorcycles.
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yeah

age issue aside. this seems like a great idea for NC folks that are waiting MONTHS to get their NC permits.
 
Mike79 said:
From New Hampshire's website

It is extremely important that all license holders be aware of the laws and requirements of all reciprocating states when visiting/traveling. Possession of a license does not supersede any other state's laws or license requirements. License holders are subject to the laws of the state they are visiting.

If you are a New Hampshire Pistol/Revolver License holder traveling to another state and wish to carry a concealed weapon using your New Hampshire license, contact that state directly to confirm their recognition status before carrying concealed weapons there. For example, some states only recognize a license if the person is 21 years of age or older.
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If this is correct, then you are not legally allowed to carry here with New Hampshire permit. Good luck, OP.
 
Alex.r said:
yeah but this says nothing about being 21 to conceal carry in nc ,I am following all nc law regarding this
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I would think that since the law states you have to be 21 to get a permit here, common sense would tell you that it would be illegal to carry concealed if under 21. I also saw where you said it is a misdemeanor to carry concealed illegally. That is true for the first offense, but it will be a felony the second time.
 
vp9c said:
weā€™ve already had several people here contact the NC DOJ to confirm that an NC resident can legally carry with a non-resident permit from a different state. There is statute requiring an NC permit for NC residents.

unless this statute along with the ā€œmust be 21ā€ to conceal in NC are subsections under the bill of sale statute! šŸ˜‚
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Correct. Heck, even the N&O (and probably other papers run by the same syndicate) had an article about it a couple years ago. It talked about the number of NC residents carrying with a VA permit because it was easier to get.
 
for all of the naysayers

do you believe open carry is legal in NC?

can you show us the statutes that spell out who can open carry in NC? most of what i see is where you canā€™t carry.

here is the link to the nc statutes to help your search

General Statutes - North Carolina General Assembly

ncleg.gov ncleg.gov
 
The Last Outlaw said:
I would think that since the law states you have to be 21 to get a permit here, common sense would tell you that it would be illegal to carry concealed if under 21. I also saw where you said it is a misdemeanor to carry concealed illegally. That is true for the first offense, but it will be a felony the second time.
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change your name
we don't live in a country where everything is illegal unless the govt allows it - things are legal unless the govt prohibits them
 
vp9c said:
for all of the naysayers

do you believe open carry is legal in NC?

can you show us the statutes that spell out who can open carry in NC? most of what i see is where you canā€™t carry.

here is the link to the nc statutes to help your search

General Statutes - North Carolina General Assembly

ncleg.gov ncleg.gov
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That's by design. Laws aren't typically written to tell us what we can do. They tell us what we can not do.
 
The Last Outlaw said:
I would think that since the law states you have to be 21 to get a permit here, common sense would tell you that it would be illegal to carry concealed if under 21. I also saw where you said it is a misdemeanor to carry concealed illegally. That is true for the first offense, but it will be a felony the second time.
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you think it would be illegal for an 18 year old NH resident with a NH permit to carry concealed in NC?
 
To the OP, is there anything in your past that will prevent you from getting a NC CHP when you turn 21? If not, good luck.
 
vp9c said:
you think it would be illegal for an 18 year old NH resident with a NH permit to carry concealed in NC?
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I am not a lawyer, but yes it would be. As already mentioned here:
1. NC allows residents of other states who have a permit issued by their state to carry in NC. They must abide by NC carry laws.
2. In order to obtain a concealed carry permit the applicant must be 21 years of age or older.
 
For several years @RS has had a S.C. CWP and a Utah Concealed Carrry Permit......When she got it, she was allowed with those two to carry in 38 states......and she did...alot. She obviously was never a citizen of Utah....how was her permit from a state she Never lived in used to carry in states that did not have reciprocity with her Home State of S.C.?
 
I expect now that we are on to page 3, this has likely already been said, so in the name of expected redundancy, "Can" and "Should" are two totally different things all together. Dear readers, imply what you will.
 
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i had a new hampshire non resident permit from about 2001 til 2011 because sc and Ga did not reciprocate. in order to get the NH permit back then you had to have a permit from your home state. i had to send in a copy of my sc permit , $20 and a signed afidavit
 
jjwestbrook said:
i had a new hampshire non resident permit from about 2001 til 2011 because sc and Ga did not reciprocate. in order to get the NH permit back then you had to have a permit from your home state. i had to send in a copy of my sc permit , $20 and a signed afidavit
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Yeah itā€™s a lot different now then,all I had to do was fill out an application similar to a nc purchase permit application,and write a 100 dollar check to the New Hampshire treasurer
 
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vp9c said:
weā€™ve already had several people here contact the NC DOJ to confirm that an NC resident can legally carry with a non-resident permit from a different state. There is statute requiring an NC permit for NC residents.

unless this statute along with the ā€œmust be 21ā€ to conceal in NC are subsections under the bill of sale statute! šŸ˜‚
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I second that, I did it myself for 5 years. Had no problems at all interacting with police.
 
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