So.... in a question that is also a display into my fevered and convoluted thinking process......
I just looked at a vid of a perp in SA Texas who fatally shot a homeowner, took rounds to the chest, got in his car and escaped. He collapsed, and the vid shows him on the floor of a suburban home begging the cops to save his life. They did, and then he got convicted for 2nd degree murder and is doing life without parole. (vid on Breitbart). Details of the trial confirmed that the criminal CLAIMED the homeowner fired first, but forensic evidence determined that the criminal fired FIRST... thus the conviction... and the death of the good guy in this exchange.
I was thinking "the homeowner confronted him and allowed him to fire first." I don't know the details, and am not criticizing the dead man, but I am thinking. "if I know this person has no business in my home (not a family member) then I am not going to say "hey!" or "halt!" or "freeze" or ..... NOTHING. I am going to shoot, because I HAVE LEGITIMATE REASON TO FEAR FOR MY LIFE.
This led to a segue to another thought. My FB account is gone, so no possibly reckless posts are extant there, but if I have an aggressive DA, s/he is going to fish all my accounts for "evidence" that I am a cowboy and loose cannon. If the DA does not, the lawyer for the family suing me in civil court (I have assets and you damn sure better believe they will go for them!) will surf for anything. This board is frankly a gold mine for such a fishing expedition for many of us. It is really a matter of time until SOMEONE here on this board is involved in such an altercation. If/when they are, someone is going to subpoena their records, and the staff will have NO OPTION but to turn them over. You can blame the stupidity of the poster for saying irresponsible crap and you will be right, but you are handing them the crowbar to beat us to death.
I am suggesting that the staff TAKE A PRO ACTIVE STAND (after legal consult, of course) and have a stated policy that because of prosecutorial malfeasance in some areas, the board has a written SOP that ANY TIME A MEMBER IS INVOLVED IN A SHOOTING, the board's policy upon notification will be to immediately and permanently delete this person's account and all their posts, and scrub those postings to prevent abusing them in a courtroom.
Please do consider this. I think if you take that stand you can state in a way where you will never be accused of spoliation of evidence. (you can't do this, of course, once you have received notice that the court wants it) It is PRE EMPTIVE destruction of data, and the written sop can be stated that it is to avoid taking private unguarded conversations and turning them into "evidence" for an imaginary crime.
It is a small thing, but it is both legal, and could be a big big big blessing to one of our members when the balloon finally goes up in their home.
Think about it, please and pass it around.
I would be interested in feedback on this.
... and yes, I know about the wayback function in google.
I just looked at a vid of a perp in SA Texas who fatally shot a homeowner, took rounds to the chest, got in his car and escaped. He collapsed, and the vid shows him on the floor of a suburban home begging the cops to save his life. They did, and then he got convicted for 2nd degree murder and is doing life without parole. (vid on Breitbart). Details of the trial confirmed that the criminal CLAIMED the homeowner fired first, but forensic evidence determined that the criminal fired FIRST... thus the conviction... and the death of the good guy in this exchange.
I was thinking "the homeowner confronted him and allowed him to fire first." I don't know the details, and am not criticizing the dead man, but I am thinking. "if I know this person has no business in my home (not a family member) then I am not going to say "hey!" or "halt!" or "freeze" or ..... NOTHING. I am going to shoot, because I HAVE LEGITIMATE REASON TO FEAR FOR MY LIFE.
This led to a segue to another thought. My FB account is gone, so no possibly reckless posts are extant there, but if I have an aggressive DA, s/he is going to fish all my accounts for "evidence" that I am a cowboy and loose cannon. If the DA does not, the lawyer for the family suing me in civil court (I have assets and you damn sure better believe they will go for them!) will surf for anything. This board is frankly a gold mine for such a fishing expedition for many of us. It is really a matter of time until SOMEONE here on this board is involved in such an altercation. If/when they are, someone is going to subpoena their records, and the staff will have NO OPTION but to turn them over. You can blame the stupidity of the poster for saying irresponsible crap and you will be right, but you are handing them the crowbar to beat us to death.
I am suggesting that the staff TAKE A PRO ACTIVE STAND (after legal consult, of course) and have a stated policy that because of prosecutorial malfeasance in some areas, the board has a written SOP that ANY TIME A MEMBER IS INVOLVED IN A SHOOTING, the board's policy upon notification will be to immediately and permanently delete this person's account and all their posts, and scrub those postings to prevent abusing them in a courtroom.
Please do consider this. I think if you take that stand you can state in a way where you will never be accused of spoliation of evidence. (you can't do this, of course, once you have received notice that the court wants it) It is PRE EMPTIVE destruction of data, and the written sop can be stated that it is to avoid taking private unguarded conversations and turning them into "evidence" for an imaginary crime.
It is a small thing, but it is both legal, and could be a big big big blessing to one of our members when the balloon finally goes up in their home.
Think about it, please and pass it around.
I would be interested in feedback on this.
... and yes, I know about the wayback function in google.
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