Just to be clear, you think gay people are trying to convince other people to be gay?
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I've read sillier things on this forum. 🤷♂️
There are more ways to “recruit” than standing on the corner handing out flyers saying “Come to the gay side! We have glitter and coordinated outfits!”
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Those predatory lesbians trying to turn all the straight women! Run for the hills!
How are they marginalized? Their alphabet society is in your face non stop everywhere. UNC aks what are your preferred pronouns? What was your gender assigned at birth? Seriously? This doesn't raise confidence in their medical expertise at all. But it damn sure shows gender queers are far from being marginalized. They are totally accepted even if they themselves haven't a clue what the hell they are. ( no peeking between the legs!)
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The North American Man/Boy Love Association is a pedophilia and pederasty advocacy organization in the United States. It works to abolish age-of-consent laws criminalizing adult sexual involvement with minors and campaigns for the release of men who have been jailed for sexual contacts with minors that did not involve what it considers coercion. Wikipedia
Yes, they have an agenda & in order to overturn the laws, they need political power. To influence politicians, they need more people / more votes.
two fingers
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You can make an argument for up to maybe twenty years ago. But in what way, on what planet, are they "marginalized" today? Hell, they're given trophies and lifetime achievement awards and bravery awards. All they do is go to work and live their lives and have sex with people of the same gender. It's not exactly a major achievement. I don't expect to he "celebrated" for simply showing up every day.
I don't hate anyone. Not a race. Not a gender. But I'm really tired of pretty much everyone who isn't white and isn't straight being "celebrated" for it.
Major eye roll material. Gimme a break.
Pertinent, and quite possibly the smartest thing ever uttered by a celebrity:
two fingers
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Yes. I'm a musician. I live in a college town. I am constantly being recruited to play on their team. Never mind that I'm damn near 50, married, have kids, etc. It's not just flirting. It's more than that. I was once literally told "We need you in our community."
My wife is a pediatrician. There is a large gay community in nursing around here, it seems. She was recruited HEAVILY during med school. At one point they had a freaking intervention of sorts with her. One gay friend of hers invited her over to play cards and hang out at her apartment. When she got there, they pretty much surrounded her and asked her why she wouldn't just give in and go for it. She literally had to force her way out of there. She had told me it was one of the scariest experiences of her life. It was cult-like.
Again, I simply don't care if someone is gay. I work with lots of gay people at my day job and in the musical world. We're cool until recruitment starts. Then I nicely establish boundaries ONCE. After that, you get equal treatment to anyone else who is getting on my last nerve.
(To be fair, the medical world is a cesspool. I could literally cheat on my wife DAILY if I were that kind of guy....and I could to it with all kinds of genders. So I'm not implying that the only sexual deviants in my area are gay.)
Short version: Yes, recruitment is big in the gay community in my experience in my area.
And, no, I don't celebrate anyone for having sex. It's not heroic. Not hetero, not any kind. You want to he celebrated? ACCOMPLISH something. I'll be the first in line to celebrate you. Otherwise, you're just a schmuck like me. Shut up and get back to work. Call me when you've done something important. That goes for my own brother (straight white dude) or any other person regardless of race or gender.
If they are so proud of their choice of whom to lick or stick, a pride month should not be necessary at all. They should just go about their lives as the rest of the people do without making a big deal of it and without trying to convince other people that they are proud of their lifestyle. I suppose they are trying to convince themselves more than anybody else that they are proud of how they live.
Speaking of "marginalization," Rule #1 of the Marginalizer is to mock and ridicule your opponent and all of his theories/thinking instead of providing a logical response supported by evidence.
I forgot about it until I read your comment.
35 years ago, at a very nice restaurant in Raleigh, I got on one knee and asked my hot bride to marry me.
A little later, an attractive woman followed her into the bathroom and was aggressively pushing to get it on with her. That didn't go well.
That type of thing happened to her in high school in the 80's as well.
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They want us to be proud of them too.
Ain't gonna happen with me.
I don't care what they do in private but I dislike having their lifestyle constantly presented to me as being normal and healthy.
What if they didnt want you sexually but for your musical abilities, or they were starting a local musicians-based kickball team or something and you just took it way wrong all these years.
In all fairness, how many straight men do the same thing to women too?
Some folks are just evil, bad people.
Let's not draw with broad brushes (not trying to single you out, not my intentions dude, just a post I decided to quote, I hope you dont take it that way), as we, the gun owning community (legally owning ha), deals with that crap all the time.
For all the companies that change their logos and such - it's all a money grab, it's ridiculous. I hate that, but, hey, that's their job, right? Still dont agree with it and they'll be taking it all down come July 1
I think they were giving specific examples they know to counter the broad stroke that "they are not recruiting".
We all know that some of "them" do recruit, unapologetically, some mind "their" own business.
However, something to consider, how would "they" react if someone hetero tried to recruit them? You see, double standards are the true evidence of hypocrisy.
I dont understand this whole 'recruitment' thing that keeps getting mentioned
No one is just 'switching teams,' this aint the NBA
I think what's happened/happening is people hit on other people, sometimes homosexual people hit on heterosexuals. Hell, my buddy banged a lesbian chick years ago, he wasnt recruiting, just trying to get laid cause she was hot haha
Then I am forced to assume that you might have your head stuck in the sand. I cannot speak to your experiences, so I will admit my assumption may be inaccurate.
"Experiment", hey, give our team a try, does happen on both sides. However, there is a segment of the + community who actively try to convert people to "their" side. They even keep score/tally. (I met a woman once who got a tattoo for every hetero female she conquered/turned. Not slept with, but turned.) That is recruitment.
If you are trying to apply that old argument that they are born this way, they don't even argue that anymore, they are too busy arguing that it is a valid lifestyle choice.
The days of just live and let us live are long gone. They have the power, and they are going to flaunt it.
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Pretty much this.
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In a few specific instances with both my wife and me, it was not that way at all. They would use phrases like "...what you could do for our community" and "...you could help us become more accepted." That's not just people trying to get laid. That is people with an agenda...and a score card. My wife literally had a woman say to her "If you're not into me, we can find you somebody more your style". She didn't care if my wife got with her, as long as she got with SOMEBODY guy. Again, that's not somebody trying to get laid or find love.What if they didnt want you sexually but for your musical abilities, or they were starting a local musicians-based kickball team or something and you just took it way wrong all these years.
In all fairness, how many straight men do the same thing to women too?
Some folks are just evil, bad people.
Let's not draw with broad brushes (not trying to single you out, not my intentions dude, just a post I decided to quote, I hope you dont take it that way), as we, the gun owning community (legally owning ha), deals with that crap all the time.
For all the companies that change their logos and such - it's all a money grab, it's ridiculous. I hate that, but, hey, that's their job, right? Still dont agree with it and they'll be taking it all down come July 1
I have zero issues with gay people who just live their lives, do their jobs, go home and care for their families, etc. But some have issues with non gay people. Some have a "cause", not a lifestyle. It's not even up for debate. It's simply true. Just because you haven't experienced it, that doesn't mean it isn't true.
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Dang fingers, you mean my old little slice of heaven in Greenville is going to the dark side? Sure wasn't like that between 72 and 76.
I should have never left that place, didn't realize how good it was till I moved home. The girl to guy ratio was outstanding, even as ugly as I am I didn't have any trouble. 🤣
I should have never left that place, didn't realize how good it was till I moved home. The girl to guy ratio was outstanding, even as ugly as I am I didn't have any trouble. 🤣
They switch teams all the time. My next door neighbors both had children in the teens when they switched teams. My son’s best friend’s dad switched teams when the kid was 14. One of my customer’s switched team after two marriages. The hairdresser at the top of the street was married 18 years with two kids when he pronounced he was gay. Gay people are not born gay. Lady Gaga is wrong.
All the above people were or are friends of mine except the hairdresser. He kept asking me to go to dinner with him. It became annoying. I dropped the guy he rented from as an AC customer to avoid him. He got annoyed and belligerent when I told him to stop it. Was telling his hair customers I hated gays. Did it twice while I was working on his heat pump.
All the above people were or are friends of mine except the hairdresser. He kept asking me to go to dinner with him. It became annoying. I dropped the guy he rented from as an AC customer to avoid him. He got annoyed and belligerent when I told him to stop it. Was telling his hair customers I hated gays. Did it twice while I was working on his heat pump.
The notion that gays and lesbians are persecuted and marginalized became so implausible they had to draw in the whole tranny craze, full spectrum. With a diverse inclusionary nod toward the blacks and illegals, all the colors of the rainbow are fully represented. Peace at last! It's really quite stupid, except for the tranny part that is often deadly to mixed up kids. I know of two situations directly, one closer than the other, but both cases involve weak parents who no doubt love their child but cannot stand strong or find help to prevent further decline. I would say they should be horsewhipped and run out of town if I didn't know them as decent people. I just can't comprehend their passive complicity. Following this fad too often ends in horrible self destructive behavior ending in suicide. I know therapists who see it all the time. I don't understand why all of a sudden the government is pushing this stupid, destructive trend along with CRT, except as a distraction from more serious developments like a failing empire on the financial, economic, and military ropes.
5 ways to support your LGBTQ+ employees
How 'bout this:
8 hours pay for 8 hours work?
The flip side of this, of course, is 8 hours work for 8 hours pay.
Unless we're taking about the porn industry, I say keep sex and sexuality out of the workplace.
People have a right not to be harassed at work over these matters. In my opinion, people also have a right not to have to deal with other people's sex and sexuality at work.
How 'bout this:
8 hours pay for 8 hours work?
The flip side of this, of course, is 8 hours work for 8 hours pay.
Unless we're taking about the porn industry, I say keep sex and sexuality out of the workplace.
People have a right not to be harassed at work over these matters. In my opinion, people also have a right not to have to deal with other people's sex and sexuality at work.
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i don't miss being a thin young attractive man living in progressive areas.
Literally, you took your chances just going to the bathroom for a piss. Deity help you if you were wobbly drunk, because somebody was going to try to get it on with you in there.
I still don't look my age, but the grumpy appearance and beard help now.
As for PRIDE, whatever. I'm happy to go to your party, and if you're cool you can come to mine. Bring who you like, and I'll bring who i like. There are a lot of things I just don't have the energy to care about, and where you put your crotch is one of them. Try to force your crotch's differing preferences on me and suddenly I'll find a giveadamn, because I have enough respect to let you live your own damn life the way you please and that's all I ask from everybody else.
Literally, you took your chances just going to the bathroom for a piss. Deity help you if you were wobbly drunk, because somebody was going to try to get it on with you in there.
I still don't look my age, but the grumpy appearance and beard help now.
As for PRIDE, whatever. I'm happy to go to your party, and if you're cool you can come to mine. Bring who you like, and I'll bring who i like. There are a lot of things I just don't have the energy to care about, and where you put your crotch is one of them. Try to force your crotch's differing preferences on me and suddenly I'll find a giveadamn, because I have enough respect to let you live your own damn life the way you please and that's all I ask from everybody else.
Wherever this occurs, I damn sure do not want to be in that city.
What a way to get artested, "Yessss sir occifer *hic*. I did attack that *hic* som-ina-beech. He was a tryin to aids me"
That's funny. That interview with Peterson and Britain's channel 4's bimbo was downright painful to listen to.
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Just a reminder.......... Don't hurt anybody's feelings out there today.
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Not asking them about their personal life and telling them to not discuss their personal stuff out where somebody could complain and get HR involved. Same thing I do for cis-hetero folks.
Nobody gets special treatment, no special months get recognized. None of that has anything to do with work.
But that's just me, and i get complaints for not being personable.
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I should also point out that of the hundred or so employees we've had over these 2 years, only one has identified as a lesbian (cool, no problem) and one has identified as somewhere on the trans spectrum (cool, no problem - let me know when you go from he to she and if we need to change any documents or anything).
All this stuff about the huge percentages of people under the rainbow flag - it's pretty nonsensical when you start looking at numbers. I'd say the biggest portion would be bisexual group, but they tend to not shove things in your face (heh) because their only deal is that they just like getting their bits tended to. I'd bet a good few of our staff fit that category, but don't make a big deal out of it. Either way, I don't care as long as they're not jerks.
All this stuff about the huge percentages of people under the rainbow flag - it's pretty nonsensical when you start looking at numbers. I'd say the biggest portion would be bisexual group, but they tend to not shove things in your face (heh) because their only deal is that they just like getting their bits tended to. I'd bet a good few of our staff fit that category, but don't make a big deal out of it. Either way, I don't care as long as they're not jerks.
I don't run around marching in a parade proclaiming that I am a proud heterosexual. I don't want to see heteros marching or hanging all over each other in public either. Be who you are. But don't advertise it to everyone. I don't care what letter of the alphabet you identify as, just get a room and keep your private business private.
Can an employer require an employee to attend an LGBTQ+ inclusivity or whatever training? I refused to attend a team building exercise (ropes course) because I hated my boss (woman, I think) but I said I had a fear of heights and that I was prone to heat stroke ( exercise was held in mid summer, hot as balls). Witch took it to HR and they ruled in my favor.
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They definitely will try. And succeed! My wife got out if it due to crappy internet zoom connection. Her “work husband” wasn’t so lucky. He is surrounded by so many hyphenated gender queers he’s learning more than anyone can imagine. He sucks it up and smiles. A truly generous person. He would absolutely lose his job if he laughed out loud. Our society is farther gone than we think. This itself is disgusting. Nobody actually cares what they dream up next. It may be stupid but normal people have to act solemn and respectful and pretend to take them seriously. Ridiculous joke. Better than a pompous king parading naked.