S&W released aluminum M&P... for some reason.

Fred said:
I'm interested. I think it should have more texture on the bare metal parts of the grip, though.
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I saw both shooters readjust their grip, her more so than him.
 
NKD said:
Huh. I like everything about it. Would never consider an MP, but I'd consider this one.

Flat trigger w/out that stupid hinge and curve
optic ready
metal frame, although maybe steel would be a good option.
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I’d like to hold and shoot one before I pass to much judgement. The extra weight could mean some good improvements on recoil. And that hinged trigger is an abomination!
 
I bet this one shoots better than the plastic one.
There's lots of talk about the benefits of a flexible plastic frame but accuracy generally isn't one of them.
 
Starkherz199 said:
Gospel truth.


However...if you're wedded to a striker gun, an Apexed M&P 2.0 trigger is the best trigger you can get on a full sized gun.
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I admit, the Apex trigger in my S&W is really sweet. In fact it’s almost hard to believe that it is a striker fired pistol.
 
Fred said:
The only Glock trigger I've tried that's even close to an Apex M&P trigger is @Gnash.Hyena's Glock Timney trigger. The rest of the Glock triggers only polish a turd.
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Absolutely. The Timney Glock trigger utilizes a completely different system to achieve the same result, so it ends up being way better than a standard Glock trigger by virtue of being a totally different design. To this day I'm delighted that Timney brought a drop-in cassette trigger to Glocks.
 
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Gnash.Hyena said:
Absolutely. The Timney Glock trigger utilizes a completely different system to achieve the same result, so it ends up being way better by virtue of being a totally different design. To this day I'm delighted that Timney brought a cassette trigger to Glocks.
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Going to look into them. I knew they made Glock triggers but honestly figured there wasn’t much more could be done to help lol. Sounds like Timney agrees and said screw it, let’s start over lol.
 
Average Joe said:
Going to look into them. I knew they made Glock triggers but honestly figured there wasn’t much more could be done to help lol. Sounds like Timney agrees and said screw it, let’s start over lol.
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That's exactly what happened, and it's the main reason Timney is the only Glock trigger I'd personally bother with upgrading to. It's entirely self-contained, and doesn't require any further modification to the gun to be a noticeable improvement. And then of course you get the same smoothing out that you get from thousands of trigger pulls afterward on top of that. Combine that with a Ghost 3.5# connector and you're golden. No need to mess with FCU springs or changing out the OEM firin pin assembly.
 
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Torn and Frayed said:
Guess the CSX didn’t do well enough for them to size it up to compact. I liked that one, at least on paper
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It was good... up until someone decided to put the worst SAO trigger in history in the thing.
 
Friday said:
I bet this one shoots better than the plastic one.
There's lots of talk about the benefits of a flexible plastic frame but accuracy generally isn't one of them.
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I owned both M&P 1.0 and 2.0 9mm full sized. Put Apex FSS triggers with flat faced trigger shoes in both of them, better sights, an optic on the 2.0, and thought the ergonomics on both were wonderful.

All that money spent and I still couldn’t put rounds on target any better than with a plain ole Glock. Which is not really a testament to Glocks as much as an expression of my disappointed in the M&Ps for not putting rounds on target any better than they did.
 
I'm an M&P guy, but I just don't understand their reasoning in making these metal frame firearms.(this and the CSX). I'm sure it appeals to some shooters. I would rather see them put their efforts into making something useful, like a small striker fired 380. I know they have the bodyguard and the EZ, but I'm don't like either one. I want a 380 but if I would buy one today I would probably go with a Glock 42.
 
fieldgrade said:
I owned both M&P 1.0 and 2.0 9mm full sized. Put Apex FSS triggers with flat faced trigger shoes in both of them, better sights, an optic on the 2.0, and thought the ergonomics on both were wonderful.

All that money spent and I still couldn’t put rounds on target any better than with a plain ole Glock. Which is not really a testament to Glocks as much as an expression of my disappointed in the M&Ps for not putting rounds on target any better than they did.
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I really don't know about the aluminum, just guessing. But I've always thought that the main reason 1911's generally out-accuracy their plastic counterparts..all things being equal..is that the 1911 is metal. It doesn't bend.
I love the striker fired polymer guns. I stated a thread years ago about how much I like them. Overall they're my favorite handgun type. If you wanna shoot 8 inch pie plates they're awesome. If you wanna shoot silver dollar x-rings..,they're not the best choice.

Only have one M&P handgun, it's a 40, and it fits my hand better than my Glocks. Feels better too.
But I shoot the Glocks with better results, including the 40's. Go figure. Maybe I just need more time with the Smith.
I shoot the Walthers better than both of the others though.
Guess which brand is teachers pet?
 
Starkherz199 said:
However...if you're wedded to a striker gun, an Apexed M&P 2.0 trigger is the best trigger you can get on a full sized gun.
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fieldgrade said:
I owned both M&P 1.0 and 2.0 9mm full sized. Put Apex FSS triggers with flat faced trigger shoes in both of them, better sights, an optic on the 2.0, and thought the ergonomics on both were wonderful.
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@fieldgrade Do you remember the Apex FSS triggers in the M&P being better than the Grayguns triggers in my P320s? I believe I got that 1.0 from you with the Apex in it, but that was so many iterations ago I can't remember what it was like.

@Starkherz199 You'll have to try my Grayguns triggers to compare. My feelings won't be hurt because I didn't invent P320s or Grayguns triggers.
 
dmarbell said:
@fieldgrade Do you remember the Apex FSS triggers in the M&P being better than the Grayguns triggers in my P320s? I believe I got that 1.0 from you with the Apex in it, but that was so many iterations ago I can't remember what it was like.

@Starkherz199 You'll have to try my Grayguns triggers to compare. My feelings won't be hurt because I didn't invent P320s or Grayguns triggers.
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Based on how your particular P320’s put rounds on target for me, I would be inclined to pursue a 320 with a Grayguns trigger before I bought another M&P.


Edit: Although that dead trigger thing before the Sig upgrade sorta spooked me.
 
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Gaston said:
I wouldn't hate a steel frame version. Heck, I wouldn't mind a steel frame Glock. In my mind, polymer made aluminum frames obsolete (but steel retains a purpose due to it's weight).
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Zev made one, however it’s no longer on the website. I think Alpha Foxtrot makes one for Glocks
 
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