I saw both shooters readjust their grip, her more so than him.I'm interested. I think it should have more texture on the bare metal parts of the grip, though.
I’d like to hold and shoot one before I pass to much judgement. The extra weight could mean some good improvements on recoil. And that hinged trigger is an abomination!Huh. I like everything about it. Would never consider an MP, but I'd consider this one.
Flat trigger w/out that stupid hinge and curve
optic ready
metal frame, although maybe steel would be a good option.
I’d like to hold and shoot one before I pass to much judgement. The extra weight could mean some good improvements on recoil. And that hinged trigger is an abomination!
If it was steel I'd pick one up for Carry Optics/Production, even though I may never compete again. I like the M&Ps specially 2.0.If it ain’t steel, it ain’t real!!! I think it applies here too, right?
Agreed. M&P 2.0 is far better than a Glock, especially if you Apex it.If it was steel I'd pick one up for Carry Optics/Production, even though I may never compete again. I like the M&Ps specially 2.0.
Gospel truth.Why would anyone buy an aluminum S&W when the CZ PCR and P01 exist? Meth or fentanyl? 😳
I admit, the Apex trigger in my S&W is really sweet. In fact it’s almost hard to believe that it is a striker fired pistol.Gospel truth.
However...if you're wedded to a striker gun, an Apexed M&P 2.0 trigger is the best trigger you can get on a full sized gun.
Absolutely. The Timney Glock trigger utilizes a completely different system to achieve the same result, so it ends up being way better than a standard Glock trigger by virtue of being a totally different design. To this day I'm delighted that Timney brought a drop-in cassette trigger to Glocks.The only Glock trigger I've tried that's even close to an Apex M&P trigger is @Gnash.Hyena's Glock Timney trigger. The rest of the Glock triggers only polish a turd.
Going to look into them. I knew they made Glock triggers but honestly figured there wasn’t much more could be done to help lol. Sounds like Timney agrees and said screw it, let’s start over lol.Absolutely. The Timney Glock trigger utilizes a completely different system to achieve the same result, so it ends up being way better by virtue of being a totally different design. To this day I'm delighted that Timney brought a cassette trigger to Glocks.
That's exactly what happened, and it's the main reason Timney is the only Glock trigger I'd personally bother with upgrading to. It's entirely self-contained, and doesn't require any further modification to the gun to be a noticeable improvement. And then of course you get the same smoothing out that you get from thousands of trigger pulls afterward on top of that. Combine that with a Ghost 3.5# connector and you're golden. No need to mess with FCU springs or changing out the OEM firin pin assembly.Going to look into them. I knew they made Glock triggers but honestly figured there wasn’t much more could be done to help lol. Sounds like Timney agrees and said screw it, let’s start over lol.
It was good... up until someone decided to put the worst SAO trigger in history in the thing.Guess the CSX didn’t do well enough for them to size it up to compact. I liked that one, at least on paper
Well that’s a shameIt was good... up until someone decided to put the worst SAO trigger in history in the thing.
I owned both M&P 1.0 and 2.0 9mm full sized. Put Apex FSS triggers with flat faced trigger shoes in both of them, better sights, an optic on the 2.0, and thought the ergonomics on both were wonderful.I bet this one shoots better than the plastic one.
There's lots of talk about the benefits of a flexible plastic frame but accuracy generally isn't one of them.
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I think it actually uses Stacatto mags too.Doublestack Springer?
Going after that STI money. Smart move I think. Timmies can't get enough staccado.
I think it actually uses Stacatto mags too.
I really don't know about the aluminum, just guessing. But I've always thought that the main reason 1911's generally out-accuracy their plastic counterparts..all things being equal..is that the 1911 is metal. It doesn't bend.I owned both M&P 1.0 and 2.0 9mm full sized. Put Apex FSS triggers with flat faced trigger shoes in both of them, better sights, an optic on the 2.0, and thought the ergonomics on both were wonderful.
All that money spent and I still couldn’t put rounds on target any better than with a plain ole Glock. Which is not really a testament to Glocks as much as an expression of my disappointed in the M&Ps for not putting rounds on target any better than they did.
However...if you're wedded to a striker gun, an Apexed M&P 2.0 trigger is the best trigger you can get on a full sized gun.
I owned both M&P 1.0 and 2.0 9mm full sized. Put Apex FSS triggers with flat faced trigger shoes in both of them, better sights, an optic on the 2.0, and thought the ergonomics on both were wonderful.
Based on how your particular P320’s put rounds on target for me, I would be inclined to pursue a 320 with a Grayguns trigger before I bought another M&P.@fieldgrade Do you remember the Apex FSS triggers in the M&P being better than the Grayguns triggers in my P320s? I believe I got that 1.0 from you with the Apex in it, but that was so many iterations ago I can't remember what it was like.
@Starkherz199 You'll have to try my Grayguns triggers to compare. My feelings won't be hurt because I didn't invent P320s or Grayguns triggers.
Hey I ain’t hating it… less Glocky…. More 1911esque. I approve.M&P M2.0 | Smith & Wesson
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Gets an official meh out of 10 from me.
Zev made one, however it’s no longer on the website. I think Alpha Foxtrot makes one for GlocksI wouldn't hate a steel frame version. Heck, I wouldn't mind a steel frame Glock. In my mind, polymer made aluminum frames obsolete (but steel retains a purpose due to it's weight).