Winter weather??

This was in my feed this morning, interesting option if you have a gas furnace. Uses an inverter and a car battery to fire the furnace.
Curious to hear what our forum experts think about it.




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Done it more than a few ttimes on a new construction for a start up when perm power wasn't installed yet

Not sure I'd trust ot to heat my home.
 
Done it more than a few ttimes on a new construction for a start up when perm power wasn't installed yet

Not sure I'd trust ot to heat my home.
How long does that last? I've got an inverter, and getting a battery isn't a big deal. Being able to fire the furnace for one cycle every hour would be pretty amazing, especially since the furnace in in the attic.
 
A deep cycle marine battery is what we used. Iirc, it's been a long time, I think we could test run about 24 cycles before the battery needed recharged.

If you read the data plate it will tell amp draw. Which I think is about 7-10 amps. Then you could do the conversion of the inverter and battery capacity
How long does that last? I've got an inverter, and getting a battery isn't a big deal. Being able to fire the furnace for one cycle every hour would be pretty amazing, especially since the furnace in in the attic.
 
New Trane heat pump purchased in 2017. No heat. Diagnosed with a leaking evaporator coil. Part covered, but not labor or Freon. Checked on line and it seems that this is a problem with Trane. Lots of complaints with the bbb. Do yourselves a favor and look at different brands.
 

Amps 13....​

a longtime friend used to send me pictures from his home near Erie in Buffalo.
he had a second-story door for access when the snow blocked all the others.
he thought it was funny. i did, too.
 
New Trane heat pump purchased in 2017. No heat. Diagnosed with a leaking evaporator coil. Part covered, but not labor or Freon. Checked on line and it seems that this is a problem with Trane. Lots of complaints with the bbb. Do yourselves a favor and look at different brands.
I had a 1984 Trane in my last house that is still going strong. Made before the EPA mandated efficiencies that required thinner walled tubing for heat transfer. Did I say that right?

I have a 2018 Trane in my 2018 house now. It has gas emergency heat. I set it to run on gas all winter. I’m hoping I can extend the life of some of the components.
 
One of my near future goals is to replace the electric furnace with a gas unit.

I was hoping this would be somewhat straight forward but as is my luck, not so much.

I can put the unit in without an issue. I'm good with the wiring, gas piping, and venting. Adapting to the duct work isn't that hard. I'd like to get any transitions professionally made as my tin skills, while functional, don't look pretty.

Problem I see, currently it looks like the a/c coil is on the bottom of the current unit. I need to move it to the top of the new one. Might need one of our A/C gurus for that part
 
One of my near future goals is to replace the electric furnace with a gas unit.

I was hoping this would be somewhat straight forward but as is my luck, not so much.

I can put the unit in without an issue. I'm good with the wiring, gas piping, and venting. Adapting to the duct work isn't that hard. I'd like to get any transitions professionally made as my tin skills, while functional, don't look pretty.

Problem I see, currently it looks like the a/c coil is on the bottom of the current unit. I need to move it to the top of the new one. Might need one of our A/C gurus for that part
Downdraft or updraft system?
 
Still got power but have a little snow and it’s still snowing.

i am in Buffalo though

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My wife is from Buffalo, looking at the pics she's getting, that's not horrible. The area she's from is close to Orchard Park (Elma) , apparently they get it a little worse than the northern areas of Erie County.

Her friend's husband is a FF, they got stuck in an intersection, had to take refuge in a local Sam's Club.
 
I have a 2018 Trane in my 2018 house now. It has gas emergency heat. I set it to run on gas all winter. I’m hoping I can extend the life of some of the components.
We went with Trane. It’s their 18 SEER system, variable speed and quiet. I appreciate not hearing BONGGGG outside the bedroom window. It does seem to have a lot of electronics in it. It works in conjunction with a “non communicating” (CAN bus I think I heard) gas furnace / air handler and somehow uses the static air pressure to know how hard to run. I admit, I don’t fully understand it, but gather that it somehow knows how hard to run and blow.

We’ve been running in some sort of limp mode for a few days as one zone sensor started dropping out and then quit all together. The installer agreed that when we renovate this spring (lots of open walls) we’re going to switch to wired for less trouble.

I do think not stressing the heat pump in extreme cold will be beneficial and ultimately less expensive. Ours is set to switch over around 35f though it seems to have some leeway either direction in its positronic brain. As long as you have enough propane you’re good to go.

I have had some question as to whether our tank is 80 or 120 gallon. It doesn’t help that the gauge goes up to 80. 80% or 80 gallons. I’d rather be sitting at 25-30% of 230 gallons than 25-30 gallons. I guesstimate based upon BTÚ - hours we were going through about 5 gallons / day during the cold snap. They said they’d have us refilled, likely Thursday. It will be low, but shouldn’t run out. I’m getting a bigger tank cause one storm put us too close.
 
Speaking of this recent winter weather and preparedness planning, on Friday when the power went out, my dad and I came here and tried to turn the water off. I don’t have a T wrench and though by luck, I found the water meter and valve which had been exercised a few times by the plumber to do work, I couldn’t shut the water off. My backup plan was to get my kerosene heater out and let the faucets run, while trying to stay up to make sure there weren’t issues.

As I said above, house built 1971-1973, copper plumbing, some outside wall fixtures (shower).

Question for the group. Municipal water which may change the calculus. Are you better off to shut off the water supply and try to drain it out, e.g. turn on outside hose bibs (low point) or run a kerosene heater and let them run?

I stayed in my RV and had frozen (PEX) lines that survived. Had bigger issues with a park with HIGH pressure and no regulator. Came home from dinner and heard that HISS sound, said, “oh shit!“ (please pardon the invective, I think it fits) and unlocked the door to find several burst valves flowing freely.
 
I had a 1984 Trane in my last house that is still going strong. Made before the EPA mandated efficiencies that required thinner walled tubing for heat transfer. Did I say that right?

I have a 2018 Trane in my 2018 house now. It has gas emergency heat. I set it to run on gas all winter. I’m hoping I can extend the life of some of the components.
Good luck. I hope it works out for you.
 
Yeah, my heat couldn't keep the house at 40 without going a lot. It's just not set up to deal with 10 degrees. And ditto on the water.
Got water back, but may have a water heater issue now....and I lost power for a bit this morning. So weird.
 
What’s happening?
I wasn't getting hot water, and the water that was coming out stopped soon, hoping it's just the lines may be frozen. Alternatively, I may need a clean-out of sediment, or worst case, a new water heater...LoL. Once everything has a chance to thaw out, we shall see.
 
My wife is from Buffalo, looking at the pics she's getting, that's not horrible. The area she's from is close to Orchard Park (Elma) , apparently they get it a little worse than the northern areas of Erie County.

Her friend's husband is a FF, they got stuck in an intersection, had to take refuge in a local Sam's Club.
Yes, OP got more snow but the really horrible thing was the wind of 40-60 MPH which created whiteout conditions. This lasted for like 48 hours. I was luckily scheduled to come in after and just had to figure out a way to make it cause thruway was closed and most counties had travel bans in effect.
 
I have had some question as to whether our tank is 80 or 120 gallon. It doesn’t help that the gauge goes up to 80. 80% or 80 gallons
The gauge is percentage.

If you have a vertical, above ground cylinder, it is likely a 120 gallon or 420 pound cylinder. The designation is whether it's an ASME or DOT spec. It's not really relevant for the consumer as they both have nearly the same capacity.

80% is the maximum safe fill. So "full" is around 100 gallons.

You can estimate your usage if you know the input BTU rating of your furnace. BTU/91,000 = Gallon Per Hour.
 
My wife is from Buffalo, looking at the pics she's getting, that's not horrible. The area she's from is close to Orchard Park (Elma) , apparently they get it a little worse than the northern areas of Erie County.

Her friend's husband is a FF, they got stuck in an intersection, had to take refuge in a local Sam's Club.
I was thinking that it doesn’t look like the Buffalo I know.
It might be a few miles east but not Buffalo because you can see the top of the truck.
 
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