Denver Patriot killed by Anitia Press Security

May I add that the shooter was "dressed" as someone that is packing? In my view, he was.

Camouflage is real with these folks...
 
tanstaafl72555 said:
Yah. the font is wrong, too..... (rolls eyes)
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So you really think it says 'space invaders against racism' on that tattoo?
You really got a thick skull with a lot of empty space in it.
 
Aardvark said:
Antifa has used the Space Invaders logo alone and with many different phrases or words attached is the point I think.
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but this nimrod says it's 'exactly' what was photo'd

Im curious what it does say, and why that logo?
 
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tanstaafl72555 said:
why?
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because now it gets into a game of "what would a reasonable person believe?" based on spotty evidence that's open to interpretation
If the shooter was retreating but only grabbing his gun as a defensive measure, he might be justified in shooting a person who took a step towards him and sprayed him in the face. Did he believe that the person spraying him, who had just smacked him upside his stupid libby head, had the ability and opportunity to cause him harm (disable him with spray and use his gun against him) and was he in jeopardy at the time he fired the shot? sure.
Then you also get into the issue of imperfect defense, if CO has that built into their laws like some states do. Did he instigate it by trying to take the spray from the guy? did he try to retreat? did the other guy try to retreat? It's a game for lawyers now.
 
Not sure why we are wasting time and energy arguing over it being a good or bad shoot or the shooters tattoo or the vagaries of the law.

Fact is the patriot side has taken another casualty. The left has started a civil war, their political leaders obviously support it as they've done nothing to stop it.

It is past time for us to put aside petty differences and get our asses organized.

The courts, the media, 3/4 of the government ARE NOT ON OUR SIDE, so quit acting like they are and quit expecting them to follow the rules.
 
Here you can see Dolloff drawing with no threat from Keltner.
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John Tiegan (Beghazi survivor) was at the shooting, and just said that the BGM Shirt guy, the shooter, the photographer, and 9News producer were all huddled up together talking prior to the shooting. He more of less just confirmed that this was a set-up.

CD
 
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It's clear that Keltner was reacting with the bear spray to Dolloff drawing, rather than Dolloff drawing to Keltner's spray. Which is what the media is pushing.
 
richardlc said:
Not sure why we are wasting time and energy arguing over it being a good or bad shoot or the shooters tattoo or the vagaries of the law.

Fact is the patriot side has taken another casualty. The left has started a civil war, their political leaders obviously support it as they've done nothing to stop it.

It is past time for us to put aside petty differences and get our asses organized.

The courts, the media, 3/4 of the government ARE NOT ON OUR SIDE, so quit acting like they are and quit expecting them to follow the rules.
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You make fine points as to exactly why it's worth discussing and being aware of what you're walking into if you decide to join any of these protest/counterprotests.
Our side will pretty much always be viewed as the aggressors no matter how many people recording the situation can demonstrate that you were acting in self defense.
If there is ANY room for interpretation they will give sympathy to the libbylib who shot you and try to push angles about how you started it. The prosecutors will run with it because that's their duty in the libby s-hole cities.

There's no winning. If you chose to engage, be ready to give up everything you have.
 
So, do y'all think the setup went the way they planned it? Do you suppose that they consider it a success? Or, do they think Dolloff drew and fired before he got enough reaction from the victim? If the goal was to film the guy who died while he was tackling the security guard, why draw a gun? It seems incredible that the setup included an option to shoot a Patriot Prayer guy. Is the news crew packing because they think they might get shot while instigating a fight? I sure hope the dead guy's lawyers dig into this stuff...
 
NC Rob said:
Good lord that is a pucker moment. On the flip side, those are cops? Holy militarization Batman!
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Police were expecting the worse between the Patriots and Antifa. Patriots had there's scheduled first and Antifa was a counter protest.

CD
 
MacEntyre said:
So, do y'all think the setup went the way they planned it? Do you suppose that they consider it a success? Or, do they think Dolloff drew and fired before he got enough reaction from the victim? If the goal was to film the guy who died while he was tackling the security guard, why draw a gun? It seems incredible that the setup included an option to shoot a Patriot Prayer guy. Is the news crew packing because they think they might get shot while instigating a fight? I sure hope the dead guy's lawyers dig into this stuff...
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I don't think it's a setup.

I think wanna be "professional security agent" who was hired via some unbelievable stupidity by the local propaganda agency there (and for which they will pay dearly in court or via being IN court for the next 10 years) got mixed up in a heated armed situation.

I hope the murderer rots in hell.
 
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MacEntyre said:
So, do y'all think the setup went the way they planned it? Do you suppose that they consider it a success? Or, do they think Dolloff drew and fired before he got enough reaction from the victim? If the goal was to film the guy who died while he was tackling the security guard, why draw a gun? It seems incredible that the setup included an option to shoot a Patriot Prayer guy. Is the news crew packing because they think they might get shot while instigating a fight? I sure hope the dead guy's lawyers dig into this stuff...
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I'd say not. They are heavily puckered up right now trying to assess their liability on this. Definitely unintended consequences.
 
richardlc said:
Not sure why we are wasting time and energy arguing over it being a good or bad shoot or the shooters tattoo or the vagaries of the law.

Fact is the patriot side has taken another casualty. The left has started a civil war, their political leaders obviously support it as they've done nothing to stop it.

It is past time for us to put aside petty differences and get our asses organized.

The courts, the media, 3/4 of the government ARE NOT ON OUR SIDE, so quit acting like they are and quit expecting them to follow the rules.
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Yeah guess we better be prepared. They have a "2020 election disruption guide" up on google docs. They sound a lot organized.

From here: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...-disrupting-the-country-if-election-is-close/

https://docs.google.com/document/d/...ide-the-dc-area-but-also-useful-for-dc-people
 
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JBoyette said:
For me, I learned three things.
  1. 9mm works
  2. You do not need a rmr for a 2yard shoot
  3. You can get a two handed grip in tight spaces
Too soon?
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4. Bear spray won't stop you from shooting or getting shot?

Did it seem the shooter was relatively unaffected by the spray or did it miss him?
 
I keep seeing the movie the patriot in my head. When the bad guys come and burn mel gibsons house and he is forced to fight... Except in my head he says to his loyal followers alright men grab your bear spray and lets try to argue with them, if that doesnt work we'll spray them with this...If that doesnt work then we'll engage in combat.
 
I'm waiting for the time this happens that somebody else draws down on whoever opened fire before the police respond. That's when crap will really hit the fan.
 
Aardvark said:
Maybe @Combat Diver can look into Jacob Lebron Kelly, age 28 as possibly the "Black Guns Matter" guy. This is allegedly a photo of him being arrested or detained at the end of the Denver event Saturday. He also is alleged to have ties with one or more TV stations.

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Some info regarding "Jacob Lebron Kelly":

From: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-denver-jacob-kelly-leader-antifa-blm-denver/

"A guy in a Black Guns Matter shirt was out stirring up trouble after the event with the Trump supporters in Denver was over. He started screaming and trying to get others into a fight:

The man’s name is Jacob Kelly. He’s one of the leaders of the Denver area Antifa-Black Lives Matter (BLM) insurgents. This is the guy that was starting all of the fights. As you can see, the Denver Post photographer we mentioned last night, Helen Richardson, is always right next to him capturing the action. He was involved in multiple previous assaults and was arrested several times by the Denver PD.

Kelly was involved in a fight at Bernie rally in February of 2020.

On June 23, 2020, Kelly was leading a takeover of the Denver City Counsel meeting demanding to defund the police. Kelly was arrested on July 3, 2020, at a Denver Antifa-BLM event. Kelly was still around after all the violence he has incurred to date and instigated a fight with Lee Kelter who then stepped away and was attacked and shot dead by Mathew Dolloff."
 
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tanstaafl72555 said:
This whole thing between the news9 newsroom and the reporter at the scene, Mr "Black Guns Matter," and the shooter is just incestuous. There is a tangled web of friendships here that is, at the least, suspicious.
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Benghazi hero John ‘Tig’ Tiegen had set up the rally. Seems like Jacob Lebron Kelly was trying to provoke a reaction from the crowd (successfully) with 9News following closely behind according to Mr. Tiegen.

Setup? Maybe. Sure sounds like that is a possibility if you listen to Mr. Tiegen's account of what happened.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...tagram-trump-supporter-murdered-rally-denver/
 
JBoyette said:
For me, I learned three things.
  1. 9mm works
  2. You do not need a rmr for a 2yard shoot
  3. You can get a two handed grip in tight spaces
Too soon?
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Sounds like some of my arguments in the past. You probably won’t use sights, lasers, or lights in an emergency. It happens too fast. If both hands are free you can acquire your grip and fire two handed from just above the belt line. From there you can really rock and roll if needed.

As to the shooter. Spend some time on instagram. Everyone with a credit card has an optic, light, aftermarket threaded barrel, and AIWB holster. That set up is the new thing. The rig doesn’t mean much to me. The grip isn’t bad in a pinch. And a good chance the shot was threat focused. Shooter got focused on what was in his hand and shot at that probably.

And as much talk as goes around about COM shots there is something to be said for putting lead to meat to end the fight quick. That was more a lucky shot than a good shot, but it was effective.

And before anyone gets too wound up, charging the shooter was the right call. IMO.


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I believe we will find that Kyle Clark, Helen Richardson, Matthew Dulloff and Jacob Kelly are a team that has worked together at many rallies. MO being to stir up trouble in order to chronicle events shaped by their actions primarily to make themselves feel like special SJW heroes, but also to advance the various leftist narratives that they want to portray.

They likely didn't get the desired outcome this time. I hope the trial lawyers' profit motive (and possibly an irresistible OJ-trial effect for a salacious media) totally overwhelms the MSM/Big Tech/Blue-Political-CJ-Machine coverup that is already well underway.
 
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