Bud Light is costing restaurants and bars millions

Irrelevant to whom? It's not irrelevant to anyone who has kids (or would like to live in a society where it's possible to raise happy and healthy children without keeping them in a bubble).

Not sure how using one's own wallet to boycott a brand is "anti-freedom", either.
 
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I have kids, they aren’t brainwashed by a gay or trans person existing. Are yours? No? Not surprised. It’s the most overblown problem of current hysteria

I’ll continue to advocate to the gay community the benefits of 2a since they are sone of the most likely to be assaulted and the only 2a party has hitched it’s wagon to culture war bs just like the dems
 
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If you think there is no difference between someone merely "existing" and someone directly targeting kids for indoctrination into sexually deviant behavior, whether that is through the schools, library programs, or the Internet, then we are never going to be able to have a reasonable discussion.
 
This is the most on the nose snowflake shit ever and it’s utterly hilarious it’s from the right.

I agree that this convo will never go anywhere. There is a fundamental difference in how we view other people and trans/homosexuality that makes it impossible. If you’d rather ban everything and hold your hands over your eyes instead of talk to your kids about there being people that are different than you or them then so be it, but it sounds like the antithesis of freedom to me and I won’t do it. A lot of this sounds like people that have never spoken to a gay/trans person in their life.

Have a good one and enjoy your coors until you find out they don’t hate gays either, and it’s capitalistic to market to sell your shit

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As a Christian, I am commanded not to hate anyone. That doesn't mean that I have to view sinful and harmful behavior as something that should be celebrated rather than condemned.

You seem to think that I don't know that homosexuality or gender confusion exist. I assure you, I do. It's just that, unlike you, I don't view them positively. Nor do I think that spreading those ideals to children is a prerequisite for the "existence" of the person doing so.

I don't need my beer to be made by a company that "hates gays". I don't even need my beer to be made by someone who condemns homosexuality or self-mutilation. I'm just not going to give money to a company that promotes those things.
 
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Point out where the bad knife company touched you.
Benchmade was asked by local LEO to destroy some guns at one point.
People, after that, assume theyre anti-gun.

Any of yall got them anti-2a Benchmades - just send them my way, I'll make sure they get destroyed...

Also, weird that guy brought them up randomly ha
 
Benchmade was asked by local LEO to destroy some guns at one point.
People, after that, assume theyre anti-gun.

Any of yall got them anti-2a Benchmades - just send them my way, I'll make sure they get destroyed...

Also, weird that guy brought them up randomly ha
Ah! I member that now
 
Hard to believe there are people on this website that's ok with chopping ******* and breasts off children as well as pumping them full of life altering hormones. Yes, that's ******* disgusting. But, go ahead and take your child to that drag queen story hour. ******* sick *** people.
To be fair, he didn't say he would personally do those things. He just said he's glad to financially support the proliferation of it, and that he thinks if you aren't okay with financially supporting it, you must be a snowflake bigot, because conservatism/freedom means you are morally obligated to financially support sexual predators...

Now that I'm parsing it all, I do wonder if he is just engaged in a very sophisticated trolling effort.
 
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People get offended when liberals say we are deplorables and then publicly talk about putting trans people in wood chippers and hitting them with axes

Those "liberals" would do better to be "offended" by deplorables like pedophiles.

I don't give one rat's @$$ about what gender a person THINKS they are so long as they don't foist it on children or bring harm to children as a result.

Hands. OFF. The. Children.

I can't make it any more plain.
 
Businesses who support this need to be called out at every turn. Maybe in our circles it isn't a common issue in sight but what about areas where kids are bombarded with this type of behavior and advertising with no support system or with parents who are sick enough to support it?
Chief said it best, Hands OFF the Children.
 
This is the most on the nose snowflake shit ever and it’s utterly hilarious it’s from the right.

I agree that this convo will never go anywhere. There is a fundamental difference in how we view other people and trans/homosexuality that makes it impossible. If you’d rather ban everything and hold your hands over your eyes instead of talk to your kids about there being people that are different than you or them then so be it, but it sounds like the antithesis of freedom to me and I won’t do it. A lot of this sounds like people that have never spoken to a gay/trans person in their life.

Have a good one and enjoy your coors until you find out they don’t hate gays either, and it’s capitalistic to market to sell your shit

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I think you’ll find most here lean more libertarian. Most do not care what someone else does, until they infringe on someone else’s rights. I do not want to know about someone else’s sex life. If someone tries introducing sex to my young grandchildren, they’re going to lose pieces and parts.
 
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broke down yesterday and bought some AB Mich Ultra.
it was for some real-deal women to celebrate a baby.
 
Apparently, folks on both sides of the aisle have been drinking the cool aid.
 
I drank two Budweisers at the turn on the golf course yesterday. As I paid for them, I announced I hadn't had a Bud since that Dylan character was a young boy-child. You have to be able to make fun of stuff.
 
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You know what gets me about the title of this thread?

WHY Bud Light would be costing restaurants and bars any money at all?

If people want a beer, they're going to have a beer. If it's not their usual Bud Light, they'll get something else. And restaurants and bars will simply shift their stock around to accommodate the change in product consumption. If people are drinking less Bud Light, they'll stock less Bud Light and more of whatever else seems to be selling better.
 
You know what gets me about the title of this thread?

WHY Bud Light would be costing restaurants and bars any money at all?

If people want a beer, they're going to have a beer. If it's not their usual Bud Light, they'll get something else. And restaurants and bars will simply shift their stock around to accommodate the change in product consumption. If people are drinking less Bud Light, they'll stock less Bud Light and more of whatever else seems to be selling better.
At the time this thread was made it was costing them. Product was going out of date unsold and it wasn't a given Bud would buy it back after it spoiled. As it turns out they did, but it looked like a lot of places were going to eat Buds execrable ad decision.
 
At the time this thread was made it was costing them. Product was going out of date unsold and it wasn't a given Bud would buy it back after it spoiled. As it turns out they did, but it looked like a lot of places were going to eat Buds execrable ad decision.

Meh...not buying that. They can always unload the product. The fact that Bud Light sales has never reached zero says there are people out there still buying it. At worse, their store of Bud Light would just sell slower. They'd still make up for it in sale of other product.

If they're actually losing money, it's because they're still hanging onto Bud Light as a significant product in their business, despite the drop in sales. I have no sympathy for such.
 
Meh...not buying that. They can always unload the product. The fact that Bud Light sales has never reached zero says there are people out there still buying it. At worse, their store of Bud Light would just sell slower. They'd still make up for it in sale of other product.

If they're actually losing money, it's because they're still hanging onto Bud Light as a significant product in their business, despite the drop in sales. I have no sympathy for such.
Except the way it works isn't as simple as that. Stores, especially small stores have agreements with cartels... I mean distributors to carry a group of products rather than individual products. So if you want other stuff in the AB ecosystem you have to take the flagship corn syrup even if it's currently being dragged through the mud and subject to boycott.

And sure, you'll sell some because some folks don't care, but when it goes from the most popular brand out there to in the doghouse that's a lot of unsold product on gas station shelves. And all of it has a "toss me in the trash daddy" date.
 
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Except the way it works isn't as simple as that. Stores, especially small stores have agreements with cartels... I mean distributors to carry a group of products rather than individual products. So if you want other stuff in the AB ecosystem you have to take the flagship corn syrup even if it's currently being dragged through the mud and subject to boycott.

And sure, you'll sell some because some folks don't care, but when it goes from the most popular brand out there to in the doghouse that's a lot of unsold product on gas station shelves. And all of it has a "toss me in the trash daddy" date.

In the long run, though, it's not the restaurants and stores that suffer. It's Bud Light.

As for the contracts...contracts/agreements aren't going to be universally one-sided. Beer makers want the ability to shift their product elsewhere if wholesalers aren't providing them the distribution they want. Wholesalers want beer makers to stay with them because that keeps their investments in the wholesale infrastructure viable. Wholesalers want businesses to take product from them. Businesses want product their customers will buy.

It's all a give and take and very little of it is so iron clad that either party can't make adjustments or even break agreements.

And if a business does take a loss, I'm sure there are tax breaks they can take advantage of to mitigate the loss. That, too, is part of the business.

While I'm sure there are very likely short term losses, in the long term the "toss me in the trash daddy" is a line of demarcation that, if they CHOOSE to step across and continue buying more product that doesn't sell, causes me to have no sympathy.

The bottom line is that customers aren't buying, therefore businesses aren't stocking as much, if at all, which is a part of why Bud Light's business has dropped by billions.
 
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Indeed, Bud Light has lost shelf space at retailers and tap handles at bars, which is driving some of the longer-term sales declines.
This example shows that the supply-side reaction can amplify the effect of a boycott.
As Bud Light lost visibility and accessibility in stores and bars,
the opportunity for sales further diminished,
creating a feedback loop that deepened the sales decline.

 
BTW. Does anyone remember the Arlo Guthrie song Alice’s Restaurant? He sang something about a group turning into a movement… if a group stops purchasing Bud Light it might make a little difference - even if they don’t admit it.
I remember Alices Restaurant and no one ever gets my references!!!
 
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BTW. Does anyone remember the Arlo Guthrie song Alice’s Restaurant? He sang something about a group turning into a movement… if a group stops purchasing Bud Light it might make a little difference - even if they don’t admit it.

Arlo the Bernie fan? PASS.
 
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Indeed, Bud Light has lost shelf space at retailers and tap handles at bars, which is driving some of the longer-term sales declines.
This example shows that the supply-side reaction can amplify the effect of a boycott.
As Bud Light lost visibility and accessibility in stores and bars,
the opportunity for sales further diminished,
creating a feedback loop that deepened the sales decline.


Not a bad article.
 
You know what gets me about the title of this thread?

WHY Bud Light would be costing restaurants and bars any money at all?

If people want a beer, they're going to have a beer. If it's not their usual Bud Light, they'll get something else. And restaurants and bars will simply shift their stock around to accommodate the change in product consumption. If people are drinking less Bud Light, they'll stock less Bud Light and more of whatever else seems to be selling better.
Along with having to eat the unsold or stale product - a part is that it costs $ to remove signs, reprint menus, change the taps, etc.
The cost to restaurants and bars is more than just the product.
 
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From my time in restaurants (granted it was a while back) was that the distributor "cartel" stuff was centered on coke/pepsi. You had to have one or the other, you couldnt sell both.

But when we purchased beer, it was whatever we wanted. If we wanted to swap Miller lite for Bud lite, it was just a phone call. There were a few times smaller breweries came in and said "Can yall try ours for a while?" and we would toss a few kegs in the cooler and plug one up. We seemed to have very wide berth in options for the draft lines.
 
Along with having to eat the unsold or stale product - a part is that it costs $ to remove signs, reprint menus, change the taps, etc.
The cost to restaurants and bars is more than just the product.
What's it cost to remove a sign?

Reprinting menus? lol All they'd have to do is say, "Sorry, we're out"

Change the taps - wouldnt that just be changing the handle and hooking up to a different keg?
 
Along with having to eat the unsold or stale product - a part is that it costs $ to remove signs, reprint menus, change the taps, etc.
The cost to restaurants and bars is more than just the product.

Again...mitigatable. Staying with a failing/failed product? Well...no sympathy.
 
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