I'm guessing SPM will be front and center when it starts in NC? Not! Just like his excuse of why he couldn't go stand with them in Va. Lots of big talk and quotes from founding fathers but little action. Same old s*#+, different thread.
I'm not sure NC is analogous to VA... why are you guys assuming any of this will happen here? Cooper wouldn't stand a chance on any of this and his party isn't ransoming him with blackface either.
Modern police are no different than the German SS. The standard answer from the LEO community is we are just following orders.
Kind of like @SPM was just following orders when he deployed several times to an unconstitutional war? I don't think regime change and being the policemen of the world is a valid constitutional reason to go to war but hey, he was just following orders? Why didn't he stand up for his constitutional morals and refuse? I guess it was just his job and he has a family to feed? Sounds like nothing but a big ole angry hypocrite to me.
It doesn't seem that you know what this phrase means. It means that you are done with this conversation not that you've forbidden someone else to respond.I have said it once already; good day, Sir.
Wow.
You clearly struggle with some issues, PTSD probably being one of them.
Come on down to the VA, we will get you squared away, and get you help.
Your janitor IS a hero in my book
Just as an aside, me opinion is poop storms like this hail from a deep underlying problem in our country...the term "Hero" has lost any legitimate form of meaning. When someone posts a viral video of a police officer playing basketball with some inner city kids, or cuddling a puppy the media screams "Such a hero!" and we have grown to follow along. We "back the blue" and "Stand with the thin blue line". All of these are modern catch phrases that serve little more than enhancing this "They are ALL heroes" mentality. What we really see in all of these videos are people just being decent human beings. I will never jump on the ">ALL< cops are evil gun grabbing puppy killers!" bandwagon...but I will also not jump on the "They are all heroes for wearing the uniform" band wagon either...
Check out: https://www.armorconcepts.com/Let's just say I don't give a rodents orifice what you shout if you're forcibly kicking in my reinforced commercial-grade-hinged steel door. It's purposely built to buy me time.
I have to agree with you. I have a family member who is LEO, good kid while off duty, but, will enforce any law on the books right or wrong.Let me pull out my crystal ball. These laws will pass and the 2A sanctuary areas will bow up a bit. But eventually the State will start to threaten withholding funding and then these commissioners and mayors who were all happy to pander to voters will quickly change their tune and these laws will be enforced by “pro-2A” law enforcement. I live in Davidson County and I will bet if the deputy who made the speech that went viral pulled me over with a third hole shorty AR and home made suppressor he wouldn’t hesitate arresting me on the spot. Cops already enforce unconstitutional laws and the only thing that is going to change in that statement is the amount of laws they enforce will increase. I’ve got friends and family in law enforcement, good people outside of work. But at work they do not serve the interest of the people or the constitution. Hitler didn’t kill millions of people, everyday folks who “were just doing their jobs” did.
Amen.Eventually, sitting on the fence will not be an option. Everyone will be forced to choose on which side they fall.
At that point, we’ll know exactly where and to whom loyalties lie.
Yep Northam has the deck stacked.I suspect that the VA Capital PD force has been selected to be the most liberal force that a leftist regime could have. Kinda like any Communist leader would have, to have the most like minded people protecting them. I bet Northam will or has weeded out anyone who doesn't drink the Communist party system Koolaid.
Most LEO I know are Pro 2nd Amendment in my area.
In todays world the term "Hero" is used like a participation trophy.Just as an aside, me opinion is poop storms like this hail from a deep underlying problem in our country...the term "Hero" has lost any legitimate form of meaning. When someone posts a viral video of a police officer playing basketball with some inner city kids, or cuddling a puppy the media screams "Such a hero!" and we have grown to follow along. We "back the blue" and "Stand with the thin blue line". All of these are modern catch phrases that serve little more than enhancing this "They are ALL heroes" mentality. What we really see in all of these videos are people just being decent human beings. I will never jump on the ">ALL< cops are evil gun grabbing puppy killers!" bandwagon...but I will also not jump on the "They are all heroes for wearing the uniform" band wagon either.
Problem is, if we base "being a hero" on such events as someone just "being a decent human being" then we need to include the janitor at my kids school who had to mop up vomit in the bathroom 5 times last week. Or the business owner that extends credit to a vendor for an extra month so that vendor can pay his payroll, feed his employees families, and then have time to make up the loss. Or the thousands of volunteers that show up to coach kids in sports for free year after year and teach them teamwork, responsibility, and perseverance. Heck, even in banking I have personally seen people extend deadlines for families that were in a jam so they could avoid foreclosure, get back on their feet, and succeed.
To remain on my soapbox...when I was a kid my "heroes" were icons...Audie Murphy (yes, I am way after his time, but my dad raised me right), Sgt York, Gandhi, Martin Luther King, and the like. Today, peoples heroes are entitled musicians, prima donna athletes, and politicians as crooked as a dogs leg. We, in my opinion, as a society have become so desperate for >real< heroes that we apply the term to anyone who actually displays themselves to be slightly less than a douchebag at any one particular point in time. "My teacher gives all her students a special handshake, he is such a hero to us all."...No...he is just a good teacher. A decent human being.
Its when we all are encouraged to look at an entire class of people as "heroes" just because of what they wear we lose sight of what real heroes are. Those who stand up for their beliefs against all opposition, or those who overcome extreme circumstances for the betterment of those around them in extreme selfless acts. There is a really good reason that virtually no Medal of Honor recipient considers themselves heroes, they consider all those they served with who did many other amazing deeds that never got recorded.
You are a police officer...good...now be a decent human being. For doing that I will appreciate your service. But I wont bow at an altar to you. No more than I would for the many other service industry workers that tirelessly work day in and day out to make our society pretty darn awesome. And for those that would argue the "Well, its not that awesome really" then I think you should take the advice you so often give those who you claim hate America and "Go where it is as awesome as you think it should be." as you type it into your smart device, sitting in an air conditioned home, with a full belly, a warm bed, a positive bank account, and no roving bands of jihadists/militants/gangs searching the streets for their next victim to hack to pieces with machetes.
Eventually, sitting on the fence will not be an option. Everyone will be forced to choose on which side they fall.
At that point, we’ll know exactly where and to whom loyalties lie.
when everyone's a hero, no one is.In todays world the term "Hero" is used like a participation trophy.
Urban areas telling rural areas what to do will be the current tyranny.
Modern police are no different than the German SS. The standard answer from the LEO community is we are just following orders.
If we get to the point that possession of heretofore "legal" property is now grounds to attempt an "arrest" I guarantee you those "arrest" attempts are going to become a hell of a lot harder and a lot more dangerous because the people who carry such items will be prepared and are not going to simply surrender and let their lives get ruined in the name of tyrannical infringement without a fight. A fight that they (the cops) may find brought to them in ways they don't expect.An individual officer spotting a full-featured AR laying on the back seat during a routine traffic stop may or may not inquire about whether it is legally owned. Some will ask, some will not. It's a coin flip. You never know which way it will go.
But let that traffic stop be one of those "vehicle registration / vehicle inspection / have you been drinking?" roadblock deals with multiple officers standing around and a supervisor or two and you can bet your ass that gun will be the subject of inquiry. And if you happen to be violating the law you will be arrested. Let that AR be spotted during a "home visit" for any reason and it will instantly become an object of scrutiny. And a "high cap mag" anytime, anywhere will turn your day into shit.
Oh dang, they are rounding up Jews and gypsies to torture and gas to death now?
Dang it.
This is all part of Trumps new America.
I do think it is worth mentioning that round-ups of innocent American citizens and sending them to internment camps has happened before in the good ol’ USA.
I do think it is worth mentioning that round-ups of innocent American citizens and sending them to internment camps has happened before in the good ol’ USA.
Yes.We, in my opinion, as a society have become so desperate for >real< heroes that we apply the term to anyone who actually displays themselves to be slightly less than a douchebag at any one particular point in time.