Goodby ≠ Goodbyetease
Goodby ≠ Goodbyetease
Wow. Gun owners with anger issues?
lost? I was told this forum was free of politically based hogwash.
My comment mentioned nothing of "further" restrictions? It clearly referred to a law removal. And removing a law that was facilitated in 1917 doesn't fall under "further" restrictions. That shows you're just looking for a fight.
Outed myself? Were you looking for me? Look no further, I'm honest, transparent, and not paranoid of anyone taking my weapons away. I have nothing to hide or fear. So applying the principle of simply spending a little time for a background check to ensure a felon doesn't buy a weapon from me is no problem. They can come to you for a gun if they need one.
FUDD? Name calling and labeling someone you've never met because you saw 1 post of theirs with a minor opposing opinion? Demonizing your fellow American because of their opinion isn't in the Constitution. You do mention the Constitution quite often? Seems your approach to an opposing opinion is "shoot first"?
"Internet" and "truth" can't be used in the same sentence. Thanks for the research advice anyway.
I'm a "To each his own". It's the root of our nations existence. I'll easily respect your opinion without having to call you names, negatively label you, or consider you my enemy. The real Constitutional truth is Unity. So if you want to forfeit Unity for the division that the District of Corruption politicians and Internet based information provide, you don't need anyone to approve or agree. Especially not me.
Trying to convince me to join your attempt in division is futile. I can't, I have a Constitutional and prior military commitment with America to serve Unity and the laws that give us the ability to achieve middle ground when in disagreement. You want your way and only your way.
Too many politically based anger issue comments in this thread. And without a doubt you've applied a derogatory label to anything I post from here on. I won't be your forum whipping post for anger release. I'll be sure to pass that along to the customer that suggested I join to share my skills. He assured me it wasn't that way.
And with that I will say thanks for the knowledge I've gained in here and goodby.
I disagree with the value of a life depending on perspective. That may be one of my problems. I give more than I take. Humanity wouldn't be here today had we allowed indiscreet perspective become the denominator. And the world would be a conglomerate of 3rd world s holes. I hold all human life in high regard since my time in the military. I'm not a devout Christian but I see great value in applying WWJD reasoning. What Would Jesus Do. He'd get an FFL, law or not.
Now you're just putting words in my mouth? Some of the things you just said are pure speculation of what I think and outright misnomers. Sorry, but not worth addressing.
Where do you work?I can't resist.
Maybe you should get an FFL background check to be sure?
I can't resist.
Maybe you should get an FFL background check to be sure?
The fallacy of your premise lies in the belief that because someone is able to purchase a firearm from an FFL that they are a good, decent, and moral person. In reality, it only means that said person may have not yet been caught, charged, and convicted in a court of law. There is always the possibility they are still a horrible person, only it’s unknown to you.I want to know "for sure" the background of whom I'm handing a gun to. It's a responsibility issue that includes a moral preference and principles.
So, did you join just to be a dick, or did you decide that after you got here?I can't resist.
Maybe you should get an FFL background check to be sure?
My comment didn't imply anything. I've never seen any one turn 12 words into 30 to understand the context?
Calling someone irresponsible IS casting aspersions...I 'personally' require going through an FFL for private sales and I find it irresponsible not to when the cost in money and time is inconsequential. I want to know "for sure" the background of whom I'm handing a gun to. It's a responsibility issue that includes a moral preference and principles. So I'll keep doing it and you do what you want.
I'm not casting aspersions. I'm noting the irresponsibility of the matter. Show me how it's not irresponsible other than "I don't have to". And how the decision not to can hold water when held up to moral and ethical standards? Pretty easy question and a chance to prove me wrong.
You do understand a BOL is meaningless. All that needs to said to any LEO asking about a gun is that I sold and i don’t remember any details.This is debated amongst members hotly and it basically divided into two camps. One is the libertarian wing where not only don’t you need anything but asking for anything means you are a craven sellout to “the man”.
The other wing prefers some CYA in case the pistol you sold ends up with a dead hooker in a cheap motel.
Personally I have been tracked down by a DA on a gun found on a convicted felon so I was glad to have a bill of sale.
Just curious if a BOS is meaningless why do some people get upset about filling one out?You do understand a BOL is meaningless. All that needs to said to any LEO asking about a gun is that I sold and i don’t remember any details.
Because people don’t want to give up their details.I have no problem showing my DL and CCW, but I will not a buyer copy info or take a photo of them.Just curious if a BOS is meaningless why do some people get upset about filling one out?
Not trying to be a smart ass but sincerely want to know. It costs you nothing then why not?
Just curious if a BOS is meaningless why do some people get upset about filling one out?
Not trying to be a smart ass but sincerely want to know. It costs you nothing then why not?
Check DL. Yeah still can be fake but it gives an extra layer.Because people don’t want to give up their details.
Something to think about, how do you prove the BOL is real?
It’s your choice, nothing wrong with it. Just be upfront about your requirements.Check DL. Yeah still can be fake but it gives an extra layer.
I personally also like getting a BOS when I buy in case sometime down the road it ends up being a stolen gun.
Check DL. Yeah still can be fake but it gives an extra layer.
I personally also like getting a BOS when I buy in case sometime down the road it ends up being a stolen gun.
Totally agree on that you do you.It’s your choice, nothing wrong with it. Just be upfront about your requirements.
What Would Jesus Do. He'd get an FFL, law or not.
A BOL offfers you no legal protection, if the DA wants you can still be charged for selling a gun to a prohibited person.Totally agree on that you do you.
Just mystified by the reluctance.
Same thing about FFL transfer. If the buyer pays for it why get bent out of shape?
you actually think someone is going to such an elaborate ruse of:3. Maybe my home address etc is none of your business. Of course that could vary based on what is on the BOS but I have seen them with the buyer’s NCDL number, phone number, full name, and home address. I guess if you are willing to put all that your info on there too that would kinda even it out. But not really.
I thin you are projecting things on folks that isn’t there.Totally agree on that you do you.
Just mystified by the reluctance.
Same thing about FFL transfer. If the buyer pays for it why get bent out of shape?
you actually think someone is going to such an elaborate ruse of:
-buy a firearm
-post ad
-drive 30 minutes to meet
just to gather one data point of already publicly available information?
If you are at that level of concernI would be more worried about the fiat currency that is being used for the transaction
Yeah I can make a bill of sale saying I sold it to anyone. Get a name and address off someone’s mail in their mailbox. It’s useless unless you are copying id and CCW.Because people don’t want to give up their details.I have no problem showing my DL and CCW, but I will not a buyer copy info or take a photo of them.
Something to think about, how do you prove the BOL is real?
You and I don’t know each other from Adam. I will admit that, especially in the past, @Studentofthegun and I butted heads, sometimes badly. However, I have come to respect him greatly and more often than not his words are full of wisdom and insight. We have also met and “broke bread” together and we are both part of the same local community.. This place is more than a forum, it is a community built over time and several forum iterations and many of us have met in person and known each other for several years and even know each others families. Most of us are very liberty minded and understand that freedom is messy, but prefer that over any amount of govt. promised safety.Now you're just putting words in my mouth? Some of the things you just said are pure speculation of what I think and outright misnomers. Sorry, but not worth addressing.
Rights in the US are overrated.
Last seen at 4:06PMWait where did the FNG go?
Alphabet soup folks do work a clock lolLast seen at 4:06PM
We’re thankful for small blessings.
You and I don’t know each other from Adam. I will admit that, especially in the past, @Studentofthegun and I butted heads, sometimes badly. However, I have come to respect him greatly and more often than not his words are full of wisdom and insight. We have also met and “broke bread” together and we are both part of the same local community.