5 Houston police officers shot.

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The thought occurred to me last night that if they really did have the wrong address, that they should be given as much due process as the people they killed. I.e. none. Their execution should be just as Swift.
 
The thing that amazes me is how many people in these wrong houses that get hit have weed. Either weed smoking is at epidemic proportions, or someone is always carrying a bag of it just in case the search produces nothing.
 
cubrock said:
The thing that amazes me is how many people in these wrong houses that get hit have weed. Either weed smoking is at epidemic proportions, or someone is always carrying a bag of it just in case the search produces nothing.
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I think this is the most logical reason I’ve seeen for decriminalizing MJ.
 
cubrock said:
The thing that amazes me is how many people in these wrong houses that get hit have weed. Either weed smoking is at epidemic proportions, or someone is always carrying a bag of it just in case the search produces nothing.
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Who do you think buys all the legal and illegal weed? There is a reason its a bazillion dollar a year industry. Lots of your friends and neighbors smoke it and no one has a clue.
 
cubrock said:
The thing that amazes me is how many people in these wrong houses that get hit have weed. Either weed smoking is at epidemic proportions, or someone is always carrying a bag of it just in case the search produces nothing.
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These raids aren't exactly going down in the Country Club.
 
SPST said:
Nobody smokes weed in the CC?
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I know doctors and lawyers who smoke it. If they're not on the greens at the country club idk who is. It's time to roll back all stupid prohibition era laws including the NFA and the rest of Jim Crow
As well as crooked Nixons federal scheduling of what is medical and what is not.
 
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SPST said:
Who do you think buys all the legal and illegal weed? There is a reason its a bazillion dollar a year industry. Lots of your friends and neighbors smoke it and no one has a clue.
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Yeah, I was being mostly rhetorical. With that said, I lean more towards more of these cases than we’d like to admit are evidence planting done on a raid gone bad than all these people at the wrong address smoke weed.
 
Cowboy said:
HOUSTON — Five police officers in Houston were shot, according to the city’s police department.

In a tweet, police said officers were responding to 7800 Harding in Houston Monday when officers were hit with gunfire following an encounter with a suspect.

Mayor Sylvester Turner said the shooting suspect is down, but did not provide any further information.

Police said the officers were transported to Memorial Hermann Hospital, Medical Center and Ben Taub General Hospital. Their conditions were not immediately known.

Joe Gamaldi, president of the Houston Police Officers’ Union, says one of the injured officers was taken to a hospital by helicopter.

The mayor called for prayers.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wgntv.com/2019/01/28/3-cops-in-houston-shot-mayor-says/amp/
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The chief's statement,

Acevedo commented that the investigation is on-going. He said he's aware of "conspiracy theorists" that have speculated that the officers raided the wrong home, but says they are incorrect.
 
J R Green said:
The chief's statement,

Acevedo commented that the investigation is on-going. He said he's aware of "conspiracy theorists" that have speculated that the officers raided the wrong home, but says they are incorrect.
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But you cannot trust "The man"
 
J R Green said:
The chief's statement,

Acevedo commented that the investigation is on-going. He said he's aware of "conspiracy theorists" that have speculated that the officers raided the wrong home, but says they are incorrect.
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Acevedo is channeling Graham Chapman:

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J R Green said:
The chief's statement,

Acevedo commented that the investigation is on-going. He said he's aware of "conspiracy theorists" that have speculated that the officers raided the wrong home, but says they are incorrect.
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Cowboy said:
But you cannot trust "The man"
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A lot of it has to do with the police chief repeatedly reading the wrong address on the report in his initial statement. The address he continued to repeat was 12 miles away from the location of the raid.

So if he's heard conspiracy theories, he's the reason they exist.
 
J R Green said:
These raids aren't exactly going down in the Country Club.
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It is a lot harder to get away with a plant in the country club where people play golf with judges and DAs and have the money for good lawyers.
AR10ShooterinNC said:
If the police raid the wrong house, what does it matter if they find drugs, hookers, large quantities of cash, or dead bodies, it can't be used as it's an illegal search or has this changed?
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Whether it can be used in a court of law or not is up for debate. But, it definitely is used in the court of public opinion. Funny how it is always leaked that weed was found in such circumstances. Or, when a cop shoots a guy in his own apartment because she thought it was hers.
 
cubrock said:
It is a lot harder to get away with a plant in the country club where people play golf with judges and DAs and have the money for good lawyers.



Whether it can be used in a court of law or not is up for debate. But, it definitely is used in the court of public opinion. Funny how it is always leaked that weed was found in such circumstances. Or, when a cop shoots a guy in his own apartment because she thought it was hers.
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It sounds like you have decreed, sans evidence, that the cops planted the drugs.
 
Honestly 5 on 2 are pretty good odds, esp if the 5 are wearing body armor. From now on, just wear body armor to the door, weapon at the low ready. Goose-Gander.
 
J R Green said:
It sounds like you have decreed, sans evidence, that the cops planted the drugs.
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Nope. Just seems strange to me how often weed is found in cases like this and used as prima facie evidence that the people involved had it coming, even if the cops were at the wrong address or didn’t find a heroin den.
 
cubrock said:
Nope. Just seems strange to me how often weed is found in cases like this and used as prima facie evidence that the people involved had it coming, even if the cops were at the wrong address or didn’t find a heroin den.
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Kinda like how the deceased's rap sheet always manages to get out when a shoot looks bad, but the officers' body cam footage is sealed as "part of the ongoing investigation."*

*unless, of course, the body cam footage vindicates the officer(s), then it always somehow manages to get released before the investigation is complete
 
cubrock said:
Nope. Just seems strange to me how often weed is found in cases like this and used as prima facie evidence that the people involved had it coming, even if the cops were at the wrong address or didn’t find a heroin den.
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Gotta get rid of that crappy ditch weed they confiscated from some kid on a traffic stop somehow! That crap will put you to sleep and give you a headache
 
cubrock said:
Nope. Just seems strange to me how often weed is found in cases like this and used as prima facie evidence that the people involved had it coming, even if the cops were at the wrong address or didn’t find a heroin den.
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It would be more surprising that there wasn't weed found in these residences. It's a drug house after all, they made buys there.

As far as reporting it, the media always asks if there were drugs found and the cops answer the question. The media decides what to report.
 
J R Green said:
It would be more surprising that there wasn't weed found in these residences. It's a drug house after all, they made buys there.
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Everyone except the police say this statement is wholly inaccurate. Even the evidence the police "found" don't support the argument that he residence was a "drug house."
 
SPM said:
Everyone except the police say this statement is wholly inaccurate. Even the evidence the police "found" don't support the argument that he residence was a "drug house."
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Who's everyone? People who weren't there?, Bloggers?, Internet curmudgeons?

They bought dope there. ie drug house.
 
J R Green said:
Who's everyone? People who weren't there?, Bloggers?, Internet curmudgeons?

They bought dope there. ie drug house.
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Neighbors, family, others in the community. Folks that knew the slain.

These cops also "bought drugs at the location," except they didn't....they made it up to obtain a warrant and only managed to cook a toddler with a flashbang...

http://www.aei.org/publication/baby...on-a-warrant-obtained-with-false-information/

This idea that the cops don't lie - especially when they screw up - is demonstrably false and easily disproven.

They're not made of any finer clay than the population from which they come.
 
SPM said:
Neighbors, family, others in the community. Folks that knew the slain.

These cops also "bought drugs at the location," except they didn't....they made it up to obtain a warrant and only managed to cook a toddler with a flashbang...

http://www.aei.org/publication/baby...on-a-warrant-obtained-with-false-information/

This idea that the cops don't lie - especially when they screw up - is demonstrably false and easily disproven.

They're not made of any finer clay than the population from which they come.
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Why are you always dragging other stories into the one we are discussing? Did the officers in this story have the slightest thing to do with that other one?

I certainly hope that if you find yourself as a defendant one day the DA doesn't start showing pictures of other crimes that you weren't involved in to the jury. But then again you might think that's fair.
 
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They still busted in and shot the dog and and people only to come away with nothing.
 
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They still busted in and shot the dog and and people only to come away with nothing.
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Ok that's what you call facts. We all know that's what happened we also know that the drug distribution system is not as reliable as say the Pepsi man going to Walmart daily. So when they are out officers don't know they are hitting a dealer ripe to sell or empty. I'd like to see facts about the stuff going on that day like the first thing of saying it was the wrong house how do they know it was the wrong house. This is case specific so in this case how does anyone know it was the wrong house?
 
J R Green said:
Why are you always dragging other stories into the one we are discussing? Did the officers in this story have the slightest thing to do with that other one?
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You can apply what you have learned about a chapter of a gang to other chapters/subgroups/allies...same theory.
 
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Ok that's what you call facts. We all know that's what happened we also know that the drug distribution system is not as reliable as say the Pepsi man going to Walmart daily. So when they are out officers don't know they are hitting a dealer ripe to sell or empty. I'd like to see facts about the stuff going on that day like the first thing of saying it was the wrong house how do they know it was the wrong house. This is case specific so in this case how does anyone know it was the wrong house?
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I don't believe there was a "right" house. Just another guy/gal wanting to offer bait to get out of their predicament. Do I know that for sure? Of course not.

What I do KNOW for sure is that this WAR on the public for non violent crimes. If all of this was legal then they would not have to protect their stash on their own. Killing, thieving, assault, and rape are what the focus should be on. The rest we will have Darwin to take care of.
 
DrSideways said:
I don't believe there was a "right" house. Just another guy/gal wanting to offer bait to get out of their predicament. Do I know that for sure? Of course not.

What I do KNOW for sure is that this WAR on the public for non violent crimes. If all of this was legal then they would not have to protect their stash on their own. Killing, thieving, assault, and rape are what the focus should be on. The rest we will have Darwin to take care of.
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I don't disagree with legalization of some drugs but I don't think a free for all would help anything.
 
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