Or we could just look at Portugal, that decriminalized everything like 15 years ago.....
Portugal vs US? Kinda like Hi Points vs Cabots.
Uummm, no.
Or we could just look at Portugal, that decriminalized everything like 15 years ago.....
A group of about a dozen members of the Houston police narcotics unit responded to a residence they suspected was a hub for drug dealing, particularly the sale of “street-level narcotics” like “black tar heroin,” Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo said. He said officers found no heroin there Monday, but they recovered marijuana, an unidentified white powder and two rifles.
From the link posted by @GreatGazoo
This action was allegedly taken because of a tip from s neighbor for Christ’s sake.
So because of some comment from a man on the street, the kit up and commit a home invasion under the FARCE of law. While your at it, look at the pictures of the two occupants of the home: a 58 and 59 year old white couple who died defending their home from invaders. And some have to wonder why the community is calling the cops the enemy?
No judge would have given them a search warrant just based on a tip. They would have had to do more work that they just aren't willing to give because it would burn CI's. A lot of cases start with tips like this but they can never be the sole source of information.
My experience is that drugs are kind of like taking a water sample from the Mississippi River. Your sampling isn't going to be the same in an hour or even 20 minutes if it's a busy place. So depending on when and how long they got the warrant the inventory could have been sold out.
So did all their crime go away and they have become Utopia now?
So did all their crime go away and they have become Utopia now?
Maybe that's why crime was so low in the post WWII to Nixon era eh?If you make all the laws go away then there's no arrest = no crime, crime goes down.
The 2nd part, Utopia, I'm not sure...
No judge would have ...
Lack of intelligence, planning, proper training, and proper employment of tactics is the most likely cause of these cops getting hurt and killed. My take on this is in reading the news, seems that the police are not ready to deal with the bad guys that employ rifles. This all lands on the feet of the police leadership.
Not if they just make up the extra info to get the warrant, i.e. Toccoa, Georgia in 2014. At least they didn't nearly kill a toddler with a grenade this time....just an old man and his cancer-striken wife.
Not disputing the point, but given the current state of the judiciary, I would not be surprised by anything a judge mightdictate by making up law on the spotrule.
I'm pretty secure in search warrant law to say its not enough, ever enough with the state of any judiciary.
Yeah, Jose Guerena's widow says not so muchI'm pretty secure in search warrant law to say its not enough, ever enough with the state of any judiciary.
Yeah, Jose Guerena's widow says not so much
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Guerena_shooting
"Guerena was awakened about 9:30 am by his wife who heard noises outside their house, later identified as flash/bang grenades deployed by police in the back yard as a diversion.
He instructed his wife and 4-year-old son to hide inside a closet while he grabbed his AR-15 rifle and crouched down preparing to defend himself from the unidentified people breaking and entering into his home.
The Sheriff's Department initially claimed that Guerena had fired on officers; at least three of the SWAT members including the team commander reported in their post-operation debriefings that they had observed muzzle flashes aimed at them from inside the house.
After an examination of the rifle Guerena allegedly pointed at the officers however, it was determined that the rifle had not been fired; the safety was still engaged. Other officers claimed they saw splinters from the doorjamb being hit by bullets; the shots that caused this were determined to come from other members of the SWAT team themselves.
"There were five officers at the door beginning to make entry into this home, when they engaged this individual that they believed was actually firing at them."Other versions of this story claim that officers started shooting after Guerena pointed the gun at them, though under questioning they were initially unsure whether he had actually moved to target them.A video of the raid shows roughly 38 seconds expired from the time the police briefly sounded a siren upon pulling into Guerena's driveway until they shot him.At this point the five person team fired at least 71 rounds at Guerena in less than seven seconds, who died after being hit 22 times"
A judge granted that swat team a warrant. I'm not gonna delve into it but let's just say probable cause can range from a recorded drug buy to "electrical usage anomaly" when presented to the right judge.So what exactly does this have to do with PC to grant search warrants that are done properly?
A judge granted that swat team a warrant. I'm not gonna delve into it but let's just say probable cause can range from a recorded drug buy to "electrical usage anomaly" when presented to the right judge.
In the case of Guerena, they paid 3.4M taxpayer dollars for not being diligent with providing actual evidence (as in totally made up) in order to roll the SWAT team to this Marine vets front door and make him room temperature
Oh they didnt outright lie, but he was named as a suspect in a long running drug investigation by 4 separate agencies, and rather than being questioned or investigated they kicked the door and shot him 70 times.Ok again a judge can not determine PC on anything more than presented to them. If an LEO lies about that information you can't blame the judge. My statement was that a neighborhood tip alone is not enough to get a search warrant. Now if they did or didn't follow up and do the work to further develop the PC I have no idea.
and criminal charges filed........for trespassing, for brandishing, communicating threats, theft, etc.Also,
if, and I stress the word "if," these officers were at the wrong house for WHATEVER reason, the warrant is automatically invalidated.
You know what?and criminal charges filed........for trespassing, for brandishing, communicating threats, theft, etc.
Look at the rules of engagement for our soldiers. So if LEOs want to play soldier, they should be held equally if not moreso accountable for their actions on US soil.
You know what?
I agree with you there.
IF, you are going to violate someone's constitutional rights, you had better have a damn good reason, and you had better be right.
Although, if a bad guy is engaging LEO in this country, and then drops his weapon and runs away, police shouldn't turn him into swiss cheese, oversees however? Light them up..
Sure, but to quote James Woods in that 90's classic "The Specialist," "You're the rigger not the trigger."Or just stay the hell out of places where they have no business playing soldier/world cop......foreign and domestic.
Dat rite der.....das rasssissss.Probably a crow on the corner or two.
I felt the sting of this on my face and I"m a long way from Huston.A proactive statement by the police union about using force against critics of the police, in the most blatant police state rhetoric possible.
Wasn't meant that way (but that doesn't matter, I guess). That's what they used to call the lookouts for, in particular, the bookies and gambling hideouts.Dat rite der.....das rasssissss.
BudE, I wasn't accusing you my friend. Believe me, I'm the last to do that! It's amazing to me that some folks see everything as a racist remark, symbol, or historical example. I did think after re-looking it was funny though.Wasn't meant that way (but that doesn't matter, I guess). That's what they used to call the lookouts for, in particular, the bookies and gambling hideouts.
You're right BO,BudE, I wasn't accusing you my friend. Believe me, I'm the last to do that! It's amazing to me that some folks see everything as a racist remark, symbol, or historical example. I did think after re-looking it was funny though.
You know, the more I think about it, I realize you're right on the moneyBudE, I wasn't accusing you my friend. Believe me, I'm the last to do that! It's amazing to me that some folks see everything as a racist remark, symbol, or historical example. I did think after re-looking it was funny though.
They were already in politics have been for over 150 yearsThey went into politics...
If they hit the wrong house, the entire chain of command needs to be charged criminally.
Source: https://www.foxnews.com/us/houston-police-officers-unions-president
Don't see how this helps:
He (Houston Police Officer's Union President) also had a message for those calling police officers the “enemy.”
“And for the ones who are out there spreading the rhetoric that police officers are the enemy, well just know we’ve all got your number now and we’re going to be keeping track of all y’all and we’re going to be making sure we’re going to be holding you accountable every time you stir the pot on our police officers,” he said.